Very Sad

[fizzwheel]

Women are like SV's in many respects. i.e Curves are much better.

IMHO theres something wrong in a society that promotes IMHO stick thin skinny girls with no curves as being an attractive body image, its just not attractive.

Peer & Media pressure has a lot to answer for IMHO.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

I think that's completely wrong, quite frankly. An eating disorder like hers isn't driven by greed in the slightest, and it's foolish to suggest such a thing. It's a mental illness that anyone (even men) are perfectly capable of succumbing too.

And like drinking or gambling, one of the first problems is realising that there's a problem; but unlike drinking, I'd imagine anorexia can probably kill you long before you get a chance to identify the problem, let alone get help.

Please dont call me foolish as i didnt suggest any such thing.
I'm in no way making light of her illness FS but she chose to stay in an industry that was not helping her be any diffrent and for making that chice she gets no sypathy from me.

You seem to suggest that just cos someones sick they should be given free reign to live as they wish and then we should feel sorry for them. Would you promote a gambling addict to one of the late night poker shows and tell him "at least you get to be on TV" or would you tell him to stay away from the environment that isnt helping his problem and mental state?
Thats the point i'm making, she seems to have made no effort to get away from a lifestyle that was damaging her and for that reason i feel no sympathy for her.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Thats the point i'm making, she seems to have made no effort to get away from a lifestyle that was damaging her and for that reason i feel no sympathy for her.

You're assuming she realised and acknowledged she had a problem though, which might not have been the case.

As a female who spends a lot of time in male company (no I am not gay, butch or anything other then a straight forward kind of girl!) , I hear so often men saying they like curvy, feminine women, who enjoy life, eating, hobbies etc....... but soooooo many girls just don't get it. So many are still more interested in their hair, weight, make up etc to actually spend time doing something interesting. It is as though they have cocooned themselves in this world of girlieness that they can't see or hear men saying what they like. Before you all shout at me, I do believe that everyone wants to feel attractive to the opposite sex (if that is your way) but somehow the way of getting there has got confused.

I can only assume this is because they believe that that is what men want, they believe that by trying to look like the t*rt on page 3 they can somehow earn respect. Images everywhere we look pamper to these thoughts. It could make me very angry the more I think about, if only more women could recognize how much more beautiful they are when they fulfill themselves with interests and hobbies, like biking or whatever it is that makes them kick.

I am all for making the most of yourself, fat is not attractive, but nor is skinny, Healthy, natural and vibrant is surely what we want, and this comes from more depth then body image. More and more we are seeing men behaving the same way also I think it is sad.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

IMHO theres something wrong in a society that promotes IMHO stick thin skinny girls with no curves as being an attractive body image, its just not attractive.

It's also not natural. As a species human beings, both male and female, are getting bigger with each passing generation.

I offer one thought:
Marylin Monroe was a size 16 and weighed about 120lbs.


'nuff said.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Tomcat

if only more women could recognize how much more beautiful they are when they fulfill themselves with interests and hobbies, like biking or whatever it is that makes them kick.

I am all for making the most of yourself, fat is not attractive, but nor is skinny, Healthy, natural and vibrant is surely what we want, and this comes from more depth then body image.

Well said. I totally agree.

fat cow









joke, please was just a joke!

Originally Posted by Tomcat

fat cow









joke, please was just a joke!

Was thinking the exact same thing!

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

You're assuming she realised and acknowledged she had a problem though, which might not have been the case.

And i think its a fair asumption to make reading this paragraph.... Relatives said Miss Reston had resisted admitting she was ill. Geise Strauss, 30, her cousin, said: "When she did eat, she ate very little and she'd go to the bathroom and make herself sick as soon as she left the table. She liked apples and she adored tomatoes but that was about it."

She clearly had people around her ho were aware of it and the tone above suggests to me a simple case of denial. She didnt want to admit it to herself even tho she knew family and friends were right. Like a lot of people with addictions do too. But deep down they all know they have issues.

Tomcat... what you say is spot on by the way.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

And i think its a fair asumption to make reading this paragraph.... Relatives said Miss Reston had resisted admitting she was ill. Geise Strauss, 30, her cousin, said: "When she did eat, she ate very little and she'd go to the bathroom and make herself sick as soon as she left the table. She liked apples and she adored tomatoes but that was about it."

She clearly had people around her ho were aware of it and the tone above suggests to me a simple case of denial. She didnt want to admit it to herself even tho she knew family and friends were right. Like a lot of people with addictions do too. But deep down they all know they have issues.

Tomcat... what you say is spot on by the way.

No it's not a fair assumption to make - as I said, it's quite possible she never acknowledged she had a problem. Even if she did, it's still a big step from fixing it.

What you seem to be saying is that she knowingly and with forethought, committed suicide in an unpleasant manner in order to further her career. That makes no sense.