Muhammted

Is that the ex prime minister of Australia you are quoting?

Originally Posted by neio79

The Uk could do with learing from that 100% , i agree with that stance completly, shall we ask him to be our Priminister?? some one with the balls to not worry about other PC fluffy people and say what most people actually think.

Funnily enough I disagree with much what he said.

1, The average aussie has imposed their view points on the indigenous population - so to say "We are an x,y,z-law country, if you want to be an a,b,c-law country - find one" kind of is a bit hypocritical.

2, He mentions "Christian this, that, the other". I don't want the laws of the country I live in to be based upon any religious ideal. I want laws based upon the consensus of the masses not upon some religious indoctrination (The 10 commandments, sharia law etc).

Originally Posted by wheelnut

Is that the ex prime minister of Australia you are quoting?

Certainly is. Been replaced by a chap who is planning an apology to the Indigenous Australians. A real, meaningful, substantive apology. Bit of a shift from the 'don't like it then p!ss off' regime...

However, that does mean Howard and Costello are available for employment

Originally Posted by Kinvig

Funnily enough I disagree with much what he said.

1, The average aussie has imposed their view points on the indigenous population - so to say "We are an x,y,z-law country, if you want to be an a,b,c-law country - find one" kind of is a bit hypocritical.

Same with the US and native americans, and here with the romans, french etc etc, but that was several centuries ago. Whether it was 'right' for one country to invade another is another question, but the fact remains that the country is as it is and you can't judge people for what their distant relatives did.

Originally Posted by Kinvig

2, He mentions "Christian this, that, the other". I don't want the laws of the country I live in to be based upon any religious ideal. I want laws based upon the consensus of the masses not upon some religious indoctrination (The 10 commandments, sharia law etc).

Think you've missunderstood what he ment. He wasn't saying that laws should be based on any religious ideal, Christian or otherwise (hence the secular state statement). He was commenting on traditions that ARE based on a religion, so that's why Christmas is celibrated, and not other religious holidays.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Kinvig

2, He mentions "Christian this, that, the other". I don't want the laws of the country I live in to be based upon any religious ideal. I want laws based upon the consensus of the masses not upon some religious indoctrination (The 10 commandments, sharia law etc).

Big differences there, I'd much rather be somewhere they celebrate christmas than somewhere you're likely to get shot for drawing a cartoon!

Originally Posted by neio79

The Uk could do with learing from that 100% , i agree with that stance completly, shall we ask him to be our Priminister?? some one with the balls to not worry about other PC fluffy people and say what most people actually think.

Well he's free as of this week. He just got voted out of Ozzie parliament.

How about somewhere where 24/7 means you can buy a beer on a sunday after 4.30

I applaud that statement by John Howard, if only more people had the guts to go against the PC brigade and stand up for the will of the vast majority, democracy and decency.

And now time for the worlds worlds most ridiculous statement

Gillian Gibbons, 54, from Liverpool has been charged in Sudan with insulting religion, inciting hatred and showing contempt for religious beliefs.

Naughty woman! I'm glad they're against causing any of this...I dread to think what they'd do if they were for it...

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

And now time for the worlds worlds most ridiculous statement


Naughty woman! I'm glad they're against causing any of this...I dread to think what they'd do if they were for it...

i would do her for being nasty to a teddy bear aswell