Ducati - Discussion...

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Originally Posted by SoulKiss

I think you (and Ted) could be right....................

Not only did I beat him, but I gave you the reason for your confusion & you quote him

You see this is all so sad really. No Brit has won a world championship blue riband event since George Formby way back when on the Isle of Man.() There is a glaring opportunity by association being missed here.

The theory goes something like this.....

You see on Casey's helmet and on his fairing one can plainly see the Union Jack. This is due to the fact that his GreatGreat grandad was transported to Aussie for the heinous crime of apple scrumping.

In order to go back to his roots and engender himself to his distant kin folk still in G.B young Casey came to England as a young lad and for the first several weeks stayed in a cravan in Ainsdale,Southport. FACT!

So you see we could be standing there glowing....."Well of course that young Casey lad is one of ours y'know?

I would much rather encourage him along than a God Like Italian who only uses the U.K as a base for tax reasons.

P.s. to Stewie.

Casey proved he was a GOOD rider on a BAD bike in 2006 when running a satelite Honda in a one rider team,(that is a very tough call for a rookie.) He finished 8th that season despite a few falls. That means he finished ahead of 2 full factory rider to do that.He showed last year in winning his title that the falls of the previous season were largely because he asking way too much from the Honda,on the Ducati..well it's all now glorious history.

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You just like him because he was plying his trade in Spain? (as well as the UK)

Originally Posted by Addicted

You just like him because he was plying his trade in Spain? (as well as the UK)

He came second in both the British and Spanish 125 championships the same season and won BOTH!

He pushed Dani Pedrosa to the limit in the 250cc class.

I like him because he is obviously talented and it has not been handed to him on a plate.Simple as that really.

Originally Posted by Woz

I wouldn't be happy. The difference seems to me though, that when all the 'likeable' riders (Toseland, Edwards, Hayden etc) make a mistake they will say "I made a mistake". With Stoner however, it seems to be everybody elses fault but his. Schumacher was just the same in F1.

Yep that's what chaps my hide with Stoner. He also had a go at Rossi last year for not congratulating him enough-when all I've ever seen Rossi do is shake the guys hand.

He's a bit of a sulker, but he's a talented guy alright. He'd be much more likeable if his attitude was better when he lost,IMO.

Originally Posted by shonadoll

Yep that's what chaps my hide with Stoner. He also had a go at Rossi last year for not congratulating him enough-when all I've ever seen Rossi do is shake the guys hand.

He's a bit of a sulker, but he's a talented guy alright. He'd be much more likeable if his attitude was better when he lost,IMO.

+1. Exactly what I feel. Dont dislike him but I wouldnt count myself as a fan. If he had more charisma then YES. It would be cool.

Statement of fact:

This is a motorcycle racing contest.

It is not a personality contest.

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Originally Posted by Pedrosa

Statement of fact:

This is a motorcycle racing contest.

It is not a personality contest.

Totally agree.

He's riding well, he's winning races, I think Casey has an in built lack of self confidence, its like he wins but its not enough, perhaps he is seeking Rossi levels of adulation to make himself feel better about himself in some way. Who knows whats going on inside his head.

He's a demon rider on the top of his game
His Mrs is gorgeous
He's minted

and he's pulls f*cking fantastic wheelies like the one he did at Donny on Sunday.

The only way some fans are going to cheer him is if he, rides a Yamaha, runs No 46 on his fairing and changes his nationality to Italian.

I like him, he says what he thinks and he gets on with the job, if that means throwing a strop now and again fair play to him.

Its a very small minority that give him greif he needs to get over it.

I did notice this year that number of Rossi workshipers had deminished and at no time over the weekend hear anybody boo Casey, everybody I was sat near were very knowledgable about racing in general and very appreciative of his talent.

Originally Posted by Pedrosa

Statement of fact:

This is a motorcycle racing contest.

It is not a personality contest.

I'm an avid motogp fan - so I do realise that. The quote below- from Stoner himself, seems to imply he feels unliked. So maybe that comment would be best directed to him....
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Stoner was saying on the tannoy yesterday, "what do I have to do to make people like me"

Originally Posted by Pedrosa

Statement of fact:

This is a motorcycle racing contest.

It is not a personality contest.

I dont agree. You dont get fans by winning unless you are Manchester United. You get fans by appearing cool, from earning repect through your actions (off the track) and this in my opinion is why people like Rossi are soooo popular, yes he is a winner but man he is a cool kid and does things to win fans.

Same goes for Toseland, meet the fella and he will talk to you, not down to you like id imagine it would be with Stoner. Ha, Toseland got egged on to tell me that "SV V-twins are **** and to get a decent bike" at the TT last year... Friends told him to do that LOL. Even wrote it down for me to rememeber on his set list... (I talked to him after the gig with Crash! [cant remember the name of the place it was... on douglas front]) Great fella .