Ipod Use Whilst Riding

[yorkie_chris]

"avoidably and dangerously distracted" is the key statement there I think. You could argue that any distraction was negligible since you weren't faffing about with the device at the time. I think the car radio analogy would work well.

That site seems far more aimed at the likes of the iPhone and other crap like that, I have no intention of typing "o fk am crshing" and "i cn haz ambulnce plz" into twitter on the bike!

[yorkie_chris]

Remember that while you might not be changing song on your player, but if a police officer stops you and thinks that you were, you could find yourself banned from driving, and worse still, in prison. So put it somewhere out of reach and keep your eyes on the road. Better still, listen to the radio!

Riiiiiight.

Better still, listen to the radio!

Yeah 'cos there are no buttons to fiddle with on a radio, noone ever wants to change channels or anything. They can't say one thing then fob it off with something else, you can either listen to music or not at all. Which of course wouldn't work and why they can't make it against the law to do so.

[yorkie_chris]

Or even built in sat navs, mp3 player on a bracket and wired into radio input is fine I presume.

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=130668 op, you'll find a lot of this stuff on here. Right down to the suggestion of what earphones to buy.

I gotta agree with YC, surely the tag of dangerous driving and the following licence points/sentance is aimed car drivers who at the time of an acciedent were reaching into a passenger seat to fetch a CD etc.

I dont think they would ever put an accident down to audio entertainment if the driver had both hands on the wheel and was doing correct observations at the time of the accident. If thats the way it is for car drivers then thats the way it is for us as well. Fair enough if you out texting while pootling down the road and hit a pot hole and then a parked car your a tool and at least deserve some points but just having ear phones in is no different to been in a car.

Further note, if audio equipment was such a distraction then MotoGP and Formula 1 drivers wouldnt be talking to the paddock as they fly round tracks at 200+mph.

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

I dont think they would ever put an accident down to audio entertainment if the driver had both hands on the wheel and was doing correct observations at the time of the accident.

Bit of a contradiction that isn't it? Surely if the driver had both hands on the wheel and was doing correct observations the accident could have been avoided in the first place?

[yorkie_chris]

A car driver doing correct observations? ROFL!

Originally Posted by missyorkie_chris

Bit of a contradiction that isn't it? Surely if the driver had both hands on the wheel and was doing correct observations the accident could have been avoided in the first place?

you missed the point

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

I dont think they would ever put an accident down to audio entertainment if the driver had both hands on the wheel and was doing correct observations at the time of the accident.

Originally Posted by missyorkie_chris

Bit of a contradiction that isn't it? Surely if the driver had both hands on the wheel and was doing correct observations the accident could have been avoided in the first place?

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

you missed the point

Contradiction? Not always, there is such thing as an unavoidable accident, not everyone who has an accident has poor obs and is driving/riding one handed, black ice for instance. However I think the point is the one I made earlier, a court will only consider music a contributing factor if there's a specific circumstance that strongly suggests that to be the case, i.e. the rider failed to hear a siren, etc

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

Further note, if audio equipment was such a distraction then MotoGP and Formula 1 drivers wouldnt be talking to the paddock as they fly round tracks at 200+mph.

They use radios in MotoGP?