Parliamentary influence - if the money's right.

Using some of our Sidderney's words, I emailed Daniel Kawcyznski, the Conservative MP for Shrewsbury.

Will he reply...

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

Four MPs are making the news for the wrong reasons, (again).
It seems that a setup 'sting' found four MPs willing to use their positions and contacts in Parliament on behalf private companies - if the money is right.

As if stealing our money via iffy expenses isn't enough.

Link to The Telegraph.

Link to The Guardian.

Do you really think MPs are above this? I know I wouldn't be.

For £5,000 a day, + expenses I will go and ask anyone any questions and try damned hard to getup any meeting you wish. Be it of my former or current employers, any any current or ex work colleagues, or anyone else!

This is especially true, if my job was on the line at the next election, and I knew I would be getting a £65,000 "bonus" for leaving my own job.

Dan

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by metalmonkey

Brown isn't elected, is usless and so on...

I wish people would drop this ****

Brown WAS elected, in this country you vote for the PARTY, not the leader and, as in this case, the leader is allowed to be changed.

Thats why these multi-party debates and PR adverts on the telly they are all going on about are a load of rubbish - who cares is Cameron's missus calls him "Dave", what does it matter about how badly done by Brown felt by his treatment by Blair?.

It doesn't, you should vote on which party has the policies that most align with YOUR values, regardless of the figurehead, after all they could be hit by a bus the day after the election and need to be replaced.

Just like any probationary period, there should be a performance review, if a new government (new meaning after each election) does not hit targets defined in their manifesto in a year there should be a new election and a ban from office for the cabinet for 4 years, with no big financial cushion to see them through.

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Stuff

I disagree with your views on Brown being elected but we'll let that ride

Your idea of a probationary period is excellent though. What a fantastic way to keep them on their toes.

Well, technically speaking, you don't vote for the leader or the party - in your case, you (as a region) voted for Daniel Kawcyznski to represent you. Here, we voted to send John Healey to represent us, and up in Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath, they sent Gordon Brown to Westminster.

When they got to Westminster, it was decided (not very transparently) that Gordon was the man who was best placed to do the deals that get the whole party to work together for a common aim. It would have been nice if there had been an alternative, and that we could lobby our MPs to choose the leader, but no-one else who put their name forward could get the required support (of 10 MPs, I believe) to go on the ballot.

Still, it smells funny to me. I might be joining you in blowing the dust off the letter-writing regions of the brain soon. I agree with the leader debates being nonsense though - the only people who can choose those three directly are the voters in those three regions.

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Sudoxe

Do you really think MPs are above this? I know I wouldn't be.

I would be, many people would be. There are many MPs whose behaviour has been exemplary. They are decent and honest, and they fully understand why they are in Parliament and what they are doing there is representing us - not abusing us by using their position to gain personally. And it's not as if they're short on money, MPs get well paid whatever the bleating we have heard - even those who have been completely honest and reasonable receive allowances that the rest of us would never ever get from an employer - I have to buy my own food.

Originally Posted by Sudoxe

For £5,000 a day, + expenses I will go and ask anyone any questions and try damned hard to getup any meeting you wish. Be it of my former or current employers, any any current or ex work colleagues, or anyone else!

I don't believe you - I know you Dan and you're honest. But I fully understand you're taking the Devil's position .

Originally Posted by Sudoxe

This is especially true, if my job was on the line at the next election, and I knew I would be getting a £65,000 "bonus" for leaving my own job.

Ain't that the truth - there are a number of MPs, mostly, but not solely Labour, who appreciate full well their chances of making it past the election are zero, have a look at the names who have refused to pay back the disputed expenses - why would you if you're going to lose the job anyway?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

So short of taking up the arms which we don't have... any ideas?

Yes, lots. None that are legal, reasonable or proportionate though. But, watch this space - maybe .

[yorkie_chris]

Quite interesting to see how many parallels you can draw from this to various other points and places in history... the fall of rome... the rise of the NSDAP or the bolsheviks...

The BNP may have met with more success if they read history.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Quite interesting to see how many parallels you can draw from this to various other points and places in history... the fall of rome... the rise of the NSDAP or the bolsheviks...

The BNP may have met with more success if they read history.

*Plumber voice*

Now there's yer problem right there.

Well here is a list of MPs that have broke more rules;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8580183.stm

what i thought was most intresting the MP who broke the rules the most sits on the commitie that is responsiable for codes of conduct, professional behaviour.

I mean if one of the MP who is meant to "police" other MPs and their behaviour is the one to be found most in breach of the rules have can they trustred to monitor themselves? MPs should have indpeant body to look at what they are doing as they just can't trusted any longer.

Here is another link;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8580593.stm

This is in relation to the fall out from the CH4 Dispatches last night.

As for not voting in Brown, no we didn't. Second he was going to call an election but realised that if there was a general election then he would have lost. So Brown called this off as he really didn't want to be booted out. But this time he has too...

As for getting a computer to run things. Have you seen the NHS IT program their reforms ect it just won't work, really it won't.

You don't need guns to win a fight, people power would do it but casue people don't care it will never happen.

To give you a hint look at the BBC main for what is news.

Then say look at SKY News http://news.sky.com/skynews.

Then lets look at the Sun http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

Do you really read this?

More people care about xfactor, eastenders or some other s*** than anything like what were talking about.

Originally Posted by metalmonkey

Then lets look at the Sun http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

Do you really read this?

More people care about xfactor, eastenders or some other s*** than anything like what were talking about.

Has the Sun started printing news?