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Old 27-05-10, 06:57 PM   #31
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You say you have 1 key... So Im guessing you sent him the key and the V5? If this person has one key, the V5 and your address... This isn't good as you may come home to find a broken door and no bike.
Well at least one problem would be solved.
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Old 27-05-10, 07:25 PM   #32
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You write to the new owner and inform him that he has 14 days to arrange collection of the motorcycle or it will be parked on the road and left there. Explain that as it is untaxed and uninsured the police have the right to impound it and he will be liable for any charges incurred because of that. Also warn him that as you have no locks to put on the bike it will only be secured on the steering lock and you are unable to hold yourself responsible if it should be stolen.

See how fast he moves then
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That's the best idea yet!
Except I think you have a duty of care over the bike until it is collected/otherwise disposed of.
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Old 27-05-10, 07:29 PM   #33
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You say you have 1 key... So Im guessing you sent him the key and the V5? If this person has one key, the V5 and your address... This isn't good as you may come home to find a broken door and no bike.

he has paid for it, he can come and get it whenever he wants, just dont know when/if he is going to come and get it. untaxed and uninsured on my driveway, chained to other bikes
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Old 27-05-10, 07:33 PM   #34
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Except I think you have a duty of care over the bike until it is collected/otherwise disposed of.
For how long? Are they expected to keep it forever? And is this duty of care written in law since it's a private sale and they are not a retailer or dealer?

Even if they do have a duty of care, they only have to do what is reasonable, so if they have not had any room in the garage since getting the new car, and it's a danger to their daughter if left parked in the back garden, then the driveway is the only place for it.

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Old 27-05-10, 07:41 PM   #35
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For how long? Are they expected to keep it forever? And is this duty of care written in law since it's a private sale and they are not a retailer or dealer?
That's why I said to speak to CAB cos I don't know what is considered "reasonable".
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Old 27-05-10, 07:45 PM   #36
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I'd just leave it out to get nicked and claim you left the garage door open for two seconds while you were cleaning the car, but went to the toilet, and when you came back the bike was gone.
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Old 27-05-10, 09:08 PM   #37
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Right this is what has happened with the bike...

Back in November I sold the Tornado through eBay to a buyer in the Netherlands. I had previuosly had emails and PM's from the buyer through the Benelli forum offering to buy the bike but the money he was offering was less than I wanted etc). I was happy to take justa deposit and hold on to the bike for a couple of weeks while he arranged a boat to come and get it but he offered me half the money and for me to send him the V5 (which I filled out correctly to permanently export the bike) and one of the keys and alarm fob. When he got the key and V5 he then paid the remainder of the money.
He said he will be over before Xmas to pick it up but because of the snow we had he couldn't make it which was fair enough.
He then said his van had broken down and was waiting for parts for it and would be here to pick it up towards the end of january. Said van reapir is taking longer than expected and would be here mid February.
On 10th Feb I got an email from him saying that he cant make it in feb and he is abroad for all of March but he will be here the first week in April.

Since then (Feb 10th) I have sent a few emails to him but have had no reply to them.

I wouldn't feel right about just dumping the bike outside or anything like that
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Old 27-05-10, 09:20 PM   #38
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Sold via ebay contact them and ask them what the deal is.

Maybe the guy has kicked the bucket! Maybe he's in jail?
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Old 27-05-10, 09:20 PM   #39
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Right this is what has happened with the bike...

Back in November I sold the Tornado through eBay to a buyer in the Netherlands. I had previuosly had emails and PM's from the buyer through the Benelli forum offering to buy the bike but the money he was offering was less than I wanted etc). I was happy to take justa deposit and hold on to the bike for a couple of weeks while he arranged a boat to come and get it but he offered me half the money and for me to send him the V5 (which I filled out correctly to permanently export the bike) and one of the keys and alarm fob. When he got the key and V5 he then paid the remainder of the money.
He said he will be over before Xmas to pick it up but because of the snow we had he couldn't make it which was fair enough.
He then said his van had broken down and was waiting for parts for it and would be here to pick it up towards the end of january. Said van reapir is taking longer than expected and would be here mid February.
On 10th Feb I got an email from him saying that he cant make it in feb and he is abroad for all of March but he will be here the first week in April.

Since then (Feb 10th) I have sent a few emails to him but have had no reply to them.

I wouldn't feel right about just dumping the bike outside or anything like that

Not point Speculating any further and I agree DD that it's not a good idea to do anything with the bike.

Just call the DVLA....they are the people with the answers....possibly CAB, but they are not the authority here...the DVLA is.
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Old 27-05-10, 09:22 PM   #40
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DVLA don't determine who owns the bike, only who it's registered to.
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