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Old 04-07-06, 12:18 PM   #31
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SV = £4K ish for a new one

GSXR or R1 etc etc = £7k and upwards.

Its daft to expect the brakes on the SV to scrub off speed like a sportsbike does. They arent in the same league.
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Old 04-07-06, 12:22 PM   #32
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I hear what you're saying, but still strongly suggest that the brakes on the SV are quite reasonable, but maybe because the brakes on an R1 are so astoundingly good, the SV's brakes appear poor by way of direct comparison.

The SV is technically a budget bike and has nothing more than adequate brakes to go with it. But adequate they are. Therefore if you're riding way outside of their capabilities, then maybe a more sports orientated bike (Gixxer 600 etc) is the way to go, unless you want to spend a fortune on modifying your SV. An SRAD front end of course would completely cure your problem.


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Old 04-07-06, 12:27 PM   #33
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jonboy/fizzwheel, no doubt I was expecting a bit much. Anyway in summary: didn't like the brakes, searched for a solution, found solution, implemented solution and now as I am as happy as a pig in...er, a pigsty!
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Old 04-07-06, 12:29 PM   #34
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jonboy/fizzwheel, no doubt I was expecting a bit much. Anyway in summary: didn't like the brakes, searched for a solution, found solution, implemented solution and now as I am as happy as a pig in...er, a pigsty!
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Old 04-07-06, 12:35 PM   #35
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Yes if you're problem's solved, then fine .

Out of interest, what did it cost you in total to put on the 600 brakes?


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Old 04-07-06, 12:42 PM   #36
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Lol! I don't think any brakes will do that!

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Old 04-07-06, 03:21 PM   #37
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My brakes and suspension is still standard, and I agree that there is a fade problem. I don't really go up to very high speeds, but when I was with a pillion and we were loaded up with tent and stuff for camping, after a 100 mile ride down the A1, I needed twice as much stopping distance, and at one time I overran onto a roundabout because the brakes just weren't as good as they normaly are.
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Old 04-07-06, 03:39 PM   #38
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Then with due respect I suggest your front calipers are in need of major attention, as you should be able to lock the SV's front wheel with a hard enough pull on the lever.


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Old 04-07-06, 03:47 PM   #39
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Then with due respect I suggest your front calipers are in need of major attention, as you should be able to lock the SV's front wheel with a hard enough pull on the lever.
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I dont agree totaly on that, at high speed it is possable to brake very hard but it will not lock up as easly as fade sets in fairly quickly on full braking, but at slow speed it should be easly possable.
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Old 04-07-06, 03:52 PM   #40
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If there's a fade problem, it's not hardware. Or were you unaware of the number of people racing SVs with standard brakes? Your 100mph hard braking scenario isn't even as stressful on the brakes as a fast trackday session, and yet I never had any fade issues at all. Old pads, I'm thinking, or contaminated fluid. Run 4-pot Brembo radials with contaminated fluid and they'll still fade rapidly with hard use.

And as for 100/0... It's true that the fastest way to stop a bike is to use 100% of the front traction. But it's faster to use 80% of the front traction and 80% of the rear than it is to use 101% of the front traction and either have to correct a slide, or worse lowside.

As for "redundant on the track", this is simply not the case, the rear brake still sees use with many racers.
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