Sad for everyone this one...

So is there a perceived difference between an emergency callout requiring blues/twos and fast speed, and say a pursiut?

I can see that the pursuit will have more danger involved as there are far more variables to think about, but at the same time even answering a 999 at a relative high speed must carry a great risk......

.... BluePete, I know you're not a instructor, but it's more of an open question. I'm always hearing of 'class 1 coppers', is this just a myth?

The Paramedic was up his own by a long stretch, so a healthy dose of salt was taken.....

Originally Posted by Pedrosa

Some of you guys really need to get out and see a little more of the world if you believe that any UK goverment is draconian or that the pips are being squeezed out of individual freedom in the Britain of today. Really I do find such comments astounding.

Of course individual freedoms are under threat - we live in a more litigious society than ever before.

What goes on in the rest of the world doesn't make this any less true.

[Bluepete]

Caddy,

No, I am not a myth.

My advanced car course certificate says "Class 1"

Standard car drivers can only instigate a pursuit. If there is no chance of a traffic car being available to take over, the chase is called off. Also, only cars can chase, Transits, carriers etc cannot.

FS.


Are you not at your tender age running the threat of soon being heard to say..."When I was a lad?" Times change Jordan we cannot prevent it. Especially when moral decline shows no sign of abatment. What would you prefer? A land of anarchy and vigilantism?

[northwind]

Originally Posted by Pedro68

however I have to question the validity of running 2 red lights to attend an altercation over a bus fare?!? THAT seems rather excessive.

People have been stabbed to death for less... She wouldn't have been rushing to get £1 off a fare-dodger, I think. Though as with the rest of the thread, I don;t know, maybe she was.

Originally Posted by BluePete

She will have done a three week course, two weeks of normal driving followed by an assessment. If that is passed, a week of response driving, ie, blues and twos. However, there are three students per vehicle, so you only get 2 hours driving per day.

This actaully doesn't sound like that much training, approx 30 hours? Isn't that roughly what it takes a normal person to pass a driving test these days. I have been told that most people take 8 sessions to pass there IAM course, or that what my group say anyway, at roughly 3 hours each that 24 hours.

Sorry I feel I should add something to this, of course police training will be better than normal driver test training but I have a mate that is going into the police and his drving is questionable at best, I sure he can pass tests but he is aggesive behind the wheel and does't always concentrate.

Originally Posted by BluePete

Caddy,
I am a myrth.

A myrth?! Watch out for lightbulbs!!!


Good moaning!

Originally Posted by Ed

I read on one site that a witness estimated the speed at 60mph. The reliability of that estimate must be open to debate: I don't know, I wasn't there.

Indeed. Most people are pretty poor at estimating speeds when they are stationary and other vehicles go by. In any event, even someone who is used to doing it needs a good 2 seconds of clear, uninterrupted view of the vehicle concerned (and to be focusing solely on it) in order to assess the speed with any meaningful degree of accuracy.

I've been in an accident (not my fault) where my speed was estimated by witnesses to be as little as 15mph and as much as "over 30". In reality I was doing 17-19mph. A lot of untrained people's speed 'guestimate' is further influenced by a number of factors, including appearence of the vehicle, sound of the exhaust, how much the vehicle is rolling (soft suspension), even just whether it is a bike as opposed to a car, etc.