HR and work pains - SV650.org

13-06-06, 10:42 AM

We all had a formal meeting this morning - redundancy related. We'd asked for unions to be present and for them to wait for another member of staff to come back off holiday, so it would have to be informal. They did this for a few minutes and then decided they'd turn it formal. Two HR witches and a management nob. So we all walked out. That's never happened at our place. Anyone got any thoughts on the possible repercussions of this? I'm not sure they have much of a leg to stand on, trying to hold formal meetings when affected staff aren't there and not allowing us to get the union in there for the meeting either.

13-06-06, 11:13 AM

They have to act inline with their own policies, so check those first. It sounds like you all did the right thing.

13-06-06, 12:01 PM

Yeah, their policies say they have to do a bunch of stuff that they conveniently missed out, so...

A couple of weeks ago we started taking the employer to court over their failure to follow it's own procedures and trying to get lots of people to go for cash, no questions asked, no official procedure being followed. doh!

Biker Biggles · 13-06-06, 04:33 PM

HR----Human Remains.

I could be really rude,but we possibly have some HR people on the site,so I will show the required restraint.(just for a change)

BillyC · 13-06-06, 04:47 PM

HR are the brunt of the business... they're told what to do and they just try and do it legally. You can't blame them for much, they're acting on higher authorities.

They're often put in very difficult situations - and are rarely thanked. I was made redundant 18 months ago, and had no problem with the difficulties HR faced with us. My gripe was with management who had ignored their employees' loyalty completely.

Stick up for your rights... but HR should never have allowed the meeting to be held without the correct representation present from the first instance. They should also have made the appropriate management aware of the policy.

13-06-06, 08:27 PM

HR at our place are not good - there purely to pretend to follow the latest, greatest procedures. The head of HR was there (she's about 27, and the head of the whole lot of them. Go figure...) and made a big point of checking outside the door, saying that she'd invited them and didn't know where they were. Which would have been plausible had we not spoken to the union reps the day before and been told that they'd told her they'd be unable to make that meeting at such short notice. That was one of the reasons we walked out. I'm fine with going - it's their loss and the payout will more than clear the mortgage and so on... but it's the fibs and pretending to be fair and open that bugs me. We'll see. 3 months time I might have an Augusta F4. Or something.

13-06-06, 10:42 AM	#1
SVeeedy Gonzales Guest Posts: n/a	HR and work pains We all had a formal meeting this morning - redundancy related. We'd asked for unions to be present and for them to wait for another member of staff to come back off holiday, so it would have to be informal. They did this for a few minutes and then decided they'd turn it formal. Two HR witches and a management nob. So we all walked out. That's never happened at our place. Anyone got any thoughts on the possible repercussions of this? I'm not sure they have much of a leg to stand on, trying to hold formal meetings when affected staff aren't there and not allowing us to get the union in there for the meeting either.

13-06-06, 04:33 PM	#4
Biker Biggles Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Barnet Herts Posts: 5,071	HR----Human Remains. I could be really rude,but we possibly have some HR people on the site,so I will show the required restraint.(just for a change) __________________ On a clear day we stand there and look further than the ordinary eye can see.

13-06-06, 04:47 PM	#5
BillyC Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The exiles of Kent Posts: 2,184	HR are the brunt of the business... they're told what to do and they just try and do it legally. You can't blame them for much, they're acting on higher authorities. They're often put in very difficult situations - and are rarely thanked. I was made redundant 18 months ago, and had no problem with the difficulties HR faced with us. My gripe was with management who had ignored their employees' loyalty completely. Stick up for your rights... but HR should never have allowed the meeting to be held without the correct representation present from the first instance. They should also have made the appropriate management aware of the policy. __________________ SV650 K3 - Gone. Now a member of the SV650.org Kawasaki brigade!

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13-06-06, 11:13 AM	#2
Carsick Guest Posts: n/a	They have to act inline with their own policies, so check those first. It sounds like you all did the right thing.

13-06-06, 12:01 PM	#3
SVeeedy Gonzales Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, their policies say they have to do a bunch of stuff that they conveniently missed out, so... A couple of weeks ago we started taking the employer to court over their failure to follow it's own procedures and trying to get lots of people to go for cash, no questions asked, no official procedure being followed. doh!

13-06-06, 08:27 PM	#6
SVeeedy Gonzales Guest Posts: n/a	HR at our place are not good - there purely to pretend to follow the latest, greatest procedures. The head of HR was there (she's about 27, and the head of the whole lot of them. Go figure...) and made a big point of checking outside the door, saying that she'd invited them and didn't know where they were. Which would have been plausible had we not spoken to the union reps the day before and been told that they'd told her they'd be unable to make that meeting at such short notice. That was one of the reasons we walked out. I'm fine with going - it's their loss and the payout will more than clear the mortgage and so on... but it's the fibs and pretending to be fair and open that bugs me. We'll see. 3 months time I might have an Augusta F4. Or something.