Asbo

Originally Posted by timwilky

I once fell foul of the plod whilst shooting, they tried to say I was tresspassing with a firearm (Licensed) and in deep trouble. Until I pointed out that at that precise moment, they were the tresspassers.

The same with the idiots who would ride mountain bikes, on the public footpaths that ran through our fields. Worse was the people who thought they could wander and exercise dogs etc.

Simple. If you do not have the land owners permission to be there. You are tresspassing. Get off and if you wish to ride a dirt bike, buy some land to ride on.

so are you saying here that is was ok for you to tresspass to shoot, but not ok for dirt bikes to do the same?

Live and let live a bit, one single trial bike in an old quarry or disused waste ground is slightly different to 12 kids rip roaring around a housing estate. Common sense is surely the issue here?

Originally Posted by timwilky

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To be fair where I was was MOD owned wasteland ... they probably had no jurisdiction there anyway!?!?

Originally Posted by Tomcat

Live and let live a bit, one single trial bike in an old quarry or disused waste ground is slightly different to 12 kids rip roaring around a housing estate. Common sense is surely the issue here?

Which is why I only got a slapped wrist ...

At the end of the day it was a fair cop - as you mentioned a slapped wrist was all it needed and all I really got ... the justice circle is complete

But am I one of the cool kids now I have a kinda ASBO?!?!

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

But am I now one of the cool kids now I have a kinda ASBO?!?!

Ok OK if it makes you feel young ... Yes your cool


(God some people will do anything to be in wif da yoof)

Originally Posted by Tomcat

Ok OK if it makes you feel young ... Yes your cool


(God some people will do anything to be in wif da yoof)

Its official … Bad-Boi-Blue rocks!! {finds a cap, puts it on and turns 135 degrees}

I am a well-ard mofo … look at me you b-atches!?!? {walks off with a silly bouncy walk dragging one leg slightly}

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

Its official … Bad-Boi-Blue rocks!! {finds a cap, puts it on and turns 135 degrees}

I am a well-ard mofo … look at me you b-atches!?!? {walks off with a silly bouncy walk dragging one leg slightly}

flickin hand as tho got a boggie on it that won't come off

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by Tomcat

so are you saying here that is was ok for you to tresspass to shoot, but not ok for dirt bikes to do the same?

Live and let live a bit, one single trial bike in an old quarry or disused waste ground is slightly different to 12 kids rip roaring around a housing estate. Common sense is surely the issue here?

No The point I was making was that I was on family land. They were driving up the road, heard shots stopped walked through the fields to me. I was not tresspassing, they were.

I have had problems for years of people on dirt bikes riding through meadows and chewing them up. Dogs being encouraged to run/deficate on the fields with the excuse that "It is a public footpath". Well get back on the footpath and put the dog on a lead. You are a nuisance to the land owner, common sense says if you have no permission to be there, you shouldn't. As for the argument about "an old quarry or disused waste ground ", a land owner has a duty of care and has to make efforts to protect the public from harm. This generally involves fencing off the land etc. Then joe public think fit to destroy the methods used to protect them from harm. Who then get prosecuted when joe public gets their just rewards.

Originally Posted by timwilky

No The point I was making was that I was on family land. They were driving up the road, heard shots stopped walked through the fields to me. I was not tresspassing, they were.

I have had problems for years of people on dirt bikes riding through meadows and chewing them up. Dogs being encouraged to run/deficate on the fields with the excuse that "It is a public footpath". Well get back on the footpath and put the dog on a lead. You are a nuisance to the land owner, common sense says if you have no permission to be there, you shouldn't. As for the argument about "an old quarry or disused waste ground ", a land owner has a duty of care and has to make efforts to protect the public from harm. This generally involves fencing off the land etc. Then joe public think fit to destroy the methods used to protect them from harm. Who then get prosecuted when joe public gets their just rewards.

To be fair, I can sort of see where tim is coming from here.

Growing up, a mate lived on a farm. Did we cause hell on the quads & bikes? Why yes we did His dad wasn't too keen, and we were told strictly to stay off certain fields at certain times of the year, so we did.

If the land is used for business reasons, fair play, get the feck off if you don't have permission. If it's waste, who the hell does it affect?

i got cought red handed (well i did have red gloves on) practicing a bit of the old bouncy, bouncy, wheelie,stopies on my trials bike in the middle of the road, copper just told me to stay off the main road................which was nice

Originally Posted by timwilky

No The point I was making was that I was on family land. They were driving up the road, heard shots stopped walked through the fields to me. I was not tresspassing, they were.

I have had problems for years of people on dirt bikes riding through meadows and chewing them up. Dogs being encouraged to run/deficate on the fields with the excuse that "It is a public footpath". Well get back on the footpath and put the dog on a lead. You are a nuisance to the land owner, common sense says if you have no permission to be there, you shouldn't. As for the argument about "an old quarry or disused waste ground ", a land owner has a duty of care and has to make efforts to protect the public from harm. This generally involves fencing off the land etc. Then joe public think fit to destroy the methods used to protect them from harm. Who then get prosecuted when joe public gets their just rewards.

I hear what you are saying ... but there are obvious places that are not used. With all due respect if the farmer uses the land you can tell. Disused land IS still around, you just have to hunt it out.

I think your coment about presecution is exaggerating, if you were tresspassing you take your own risks and pay your own prices.