Why Bikers die on Welsh Roads - TV tonight

Originally Posted by Law

Oh yes, I remember, sports bikes are selling more or something like that, it wasn't mentioned in the same part though.

exactly, they managed to make everything sound so negative

Originally Posted by Law

Not high powered for a motorcycle, but ignorant reporters probably mean very fast accelerating bike compared to a slow cage, but then most motorcycles are faster.

why do all journos seem to be so stupid???

Originally Posted by Law

I can see why the program was done but it's not going to change a thing, except divide. Non-bikers will think we're illegal dangerous speeding k***s, and bikers will think it's bo***cks and other riders are at fault.

hmmm, maybe. seemed to be an attempt at guilt tripping bikers into giving up their selfish hobby.

[yorkie_chris]

According to Mike Costin (the COS in cosworth) in one of his books high performance is an important factor in making a safe car, this would mean our 400odd bhp/ton is an important safety feature

Wheres the BBC 'documentary' about docile tossers in 4x4s and chavs/other scum in souped up cars?

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

According to Mike Costin (the COS in cosworth) in one of his books high performance is an important factor in making a safe car, this would mean our 400odd bhp/ton is an important safety feature

Wheres the BBC 'documentary' about docile tossers in 4x4s and chavs/other scum in souped up cars?

chavs we all know about their driving habits in this part of the world
keep death off the roads ban chavs

[yorkie_chris]

I've said this for ages, anything in burberry, and anyone who lives on queens road but drives an impreza, just shoot the swines.

Result: much safer roads and no more drug problem!

[Stu]

I thought it was a very good program with no reason for Baph's complaint link. Seriously.
It showed that some bikers are knobs - True
It showed that freak accidents happen - True
It showed that when accidents happen on a bike like hitting a pole or a post, whereas in a car you've got a far chance of survival, but you'd better know that on a bike there's a fair chance you'll just die.
It was quite forward in promoting that accidents are not generally speed related - True so the program was much better in that respect than Wales police.
It showed that Wales could do with some motorways. Sounds like a good idea to me & leave the good roads for just the motorbikes that want to use them.

[Luckypants]

Actually after watching the Welsh news etc that have been promoting this program it was not as bad as I was expecting. The trailers for the program really went to town on the speeding issue linking it directly to deaths.

The program actually stated that less than 4% of bike fatalaties are due to breaking the speed limit. The bad riding footage was showing speeding and one instance of overtaking on solid white lines. The two tossers from Stoke were filtering hard but the undertake on the hard shoulder was dangerous - thier attitude whilst being interviewed was apalling and has done us no favours at all.

The guy they interviewed at the Ponderosa was from our Bikesafe course. They picked him as an inexperienced rider, one of two with a big sportsbike. He said they kept asking him why he needed such a big, fast bike. He was a bright articulate guy and did not give them what they wanted, hence why so little of his interview shown? It was interesting that they said that we all had bought sports bikes! There were two out of 16 bikes that were sports bikes. One guy was on a Dauville, there were three cruisers, three big trailies and misture of others - sports bikes my @rse!

I think they should have made more of the fact that advanced riding courses are fully booked which shows that most bikers take thier riding seriously.

Whilst I feel for the featured family whose son / husband was killed close to home, his death was not related to speed or dangerous riding. I felt they took his accident a little out of context by linking it to the speed message. Describing his SV650 as a 'high powered sports bike' was plain wrong and sensationalist, like they wanted a dead sportsbike rider. They stated that what caused him to clip a kerb was unknown. Like a lot of riders, he died as a result of hitting street furniture.

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by hovis

did i

unless your recognised me? As we've never met..........

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Wheres the BBC 'documentary' about docile tossers in 4x4s and chavs/other scum in souped up cars?

There was one on ITV last night, exactly that. John Sargeant the presenter wants to ban 4X4s from towns. It's called Driving Me Crazy and is a series. Next week it's senile old gits driving badly.

Wonder when they gonna do a hatchet job on bikes?

[Stu]

OK can the .Ogres please be clearly pointed out & I'll go at watch it again.
Luckypants were you the one with the dark glasses & Black bandana on your head?

Originally Posted by Stu

OK can the .Ogres please be clearly pointed out & I'll go at watch it again.
Luckypants were you the one with the dark glasses & Black bandana on your head?

Have you taped it? I want to watch the whole thing.