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Old 04-04-08, 10:37 AM   #11
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Default Re: Is there a big disadvantage to not blipping the throttle on fast downchanges?

I couldn't change down without blipping the throttle if I tried, it's built in !
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Old 04-04-08, 10:57 AM   #12
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Default Re: Is there a big disadvantage to not blipping the throttle on fast downchanges?

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Surely the other consideration is reducing the wear on the gearbox? If your gears are engaging with a big THWACK then maybe think about different technique.

The slipper clutches are only to stop the rear wheel slipping, your's is a 675 right? Shouldn't be too bad a problem since I #think# they have a slipper clutch as standard, and the rear shock isn't stupidly overdamped on rebound.
Nope, afraid not. I think of the current crop of ss600's only the R6 an ZX6R - possibly the GSXR have slipper clutches. Well - unless you count the one on the handlebars! But you know what I mean

Besides, prevention is better than a cure!
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Old 04-04-08, 12:11 PM   #13
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Default Re: Is there a big disadvantage to not blipping the throttle on fast downchanges?

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It's all about smoothness more than engine wear, as noted above. Do it all the time, it doesn't take long. If you need more convincing the see what the master says:

http://forums.superbikeschool.com/in...?showtopic=258
Thats a pretty good article and describes quite well what we mean, its a little long winded though.

The first time you try this you'll find it awkward and will probably find it difficult to blip for each down shift whilst braking without applying the brakes harder each blip. It just takes practice to get it right but it sure does make things smoother and gets you through a corner a hell of a lot quicker.

We talked in Blue's thread about a common trackday sight whereby non-racers brake WAY to early. This is partly the reason. Because they either dont know how or havent practiced doing all this stuff at the same time they have to seperate them and that translates into needing to brake over a much longer distance. You'll be surprised just how late you need to brake once you get this technique sussed.
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Old 04-04-08, 12:17 PM   #14
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I blip on most downchanges, I find it gives a smoother shift, and also the bike feels more stable.
I do exactly the same.
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Old 04-04-08, 06:06 PM   #15
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I do it on the road and use two fingered braking. I didn't even bother trying at Silverstone due to the mental straights there and not wanting to overshoot the corner. I didn't get a single locked rear wheel but on my first SV trackday (wet) the rear was locking all over the place. I liked it in the end but only done it in a straight line.

All points noted, I'll try it next time on track.
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Old 04-04-08, 06:08 PM   #16
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I couldn't change down without blipping the throttle if I tried, it's built in !
+1 top blipper
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Old 04-04-08, 07:09 PM   #17
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All points noted, I'll try it next time on track.
I take it you have a road bike yes?

If so why wait until your next trackday to practice??
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Old 04-04-08, 07:30 PM   #18
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Default Re: Is there a big disadvantage to not blipping the throttle on fast downchanges?

I always blip, even with slipper clutch, it really does become second nature after a while. I don't think you locked up as you probably weren't high in the revs when changing down but the more confident you get on trackdays the more you'll change down higher up the rev range.
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Old 04-04-08, 10:52 PM   #19
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I take it you have a road bike yes?

If so why wait until your next trackday to practice??
Yeah got a road bike and I do it on the road. I can do it on the road no probs but I didn't want to sacrifice any braking and end up in the dirt.

I suppose waiting til the last few yards and then changing down a few gears at once would sacrifice the engine braking?
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Old 05-04-08, 09:16 AM   #20
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You don't have to blip, just make sure your let the clutch out smoothly, and not too quickly.
+2. I prefer to blip, but it's not so I don't lock the wheel, you can slip the clutch for that (what did we do before slipper clutches?) the only reason is that I don't want to put the extra wear and tear on my clutch.
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