appealing against my fines

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

At least, not for MOT.

I thought that was the case for MOT's. But I dont think the Police follow the same rules and regs for exhaust as the MOT test does. which is why the whole thing is ridiculous...

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

See this is, in my opinion an illustration of what is somewhat wrong with the system.

A Police Officer can say, without expert knowledge that you have done X/Y/| wrong.

You feel this is unfair but are intimidated that if you challenge it, then it will go worse for you, so you are forced to accept their view.

Kind of a "shut up or get another slap" kind of situation.

+1

Seems to be kinda biased towards extracting money from anyone on the road...

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I thought that was the case for MOT's. But I dont think the Police follow the same rules and regs for exhaust as the MOT test does. which is why the whole thing is ridiculous...

Precisely. And you tell them to go forth and multiply because your can passes an MOT they will get right shirty.

Originally Posted by Luckypants

Precisely. And you tell them to go forth and multiply because your can passes an MOT they will get right shirty.

so if it can pass an MOT can they do anything??

I know there have been cases where stupid cops have tried to do people for having road legal tyres that are of the sporty version.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by ejohnh

Misinformation. Free to leave Wales and free to enter on a bike. Cars get charged to enter Wales.

He' right you know years ago I drove to Wales, then drove the long way round to avoid what I thought would be the same toll to come back!

[Stu]

So Quiff, you still appealing? I hope not for the plate as it was illegal. as for the can probably find a better battle to fight than that one mate.

Originally Posted by neio79

so if it can pass an MOT can they do anything??

I know there have been cases where stupid cops have tried to do people for having road legal tyres that are of the sporty version.

Yes, because as Fizz points out we've got this rediculious situation where the rules for what's road legal and for what'll pass an MOT aren't the same thing.

A confusing situation compunded by police who as you say, sometimes don't even know what those rules are.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Since when? I was under the impression that the BS/E was no longer a requirement. At least, not for MOT.

Technically it shouldn't pass an MOT either, but many will over look this. Some coppers will over look loud cans too, but not small numberplates. A 'BS' or 'E' stamp is a legal requirement for the road!

Strange I know, but if you start stating that the exhaust pasted an MOT to a copper they will in the end clamp down on MOT standards leaving many of us hours work rectifying or bikes prior to taking a bike to its MOT!

I paid the fines

I wrote a letter of concern over his attitude and giving me 2 tickets not one- not expecting anything but made me feel better..

maybe got me black flagged if I go wales again now!.. ha

so- now new tyres- which were goin on anyway .

new plate

and just spent ?200 and a bit on a new yoshi legal exhaust with an e mark..

so my other ones for sale if anyone wants it.!!!

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Yes, because as Fizz points out we've got this rediculious situation where the rules for what's road legal and for what'll pass an MOT aren't the same thing.

A confusing situation compunded by police who as you say, sometimes don't even know what those rules are.

correct- when I went to my MOT man to get my rectify notice stamped he said there is a major disparity between MOT requirements and the requirements the coppers apply.. ,, however - if addressed it will most definitey err toward hardening up on the MOT in line with the cops ideas.. so. ... best let sleeping dogs eh..