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Old 29-04-08, 01:03 PM   #41
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LMAO!! Deja-vu of myself last summer i swear, only weeks after passing my test! Couple of farm roads by accident, went straight through a hedge once into an empty field, turn round, rode back out, fixed the hedge the next day. It's not clever i know but it is kinda funny to look back on! Anyway... riding quickly is a long long long learning curve, you really need to take your time!

NEVER EVER chase other bikes, because there are some seriously 5hit hot riders on the roads that have been doing that, track days etc for years, and you will come unstuck trying to keep with them!

My favourite riding ground is Buxton Road, some may have heard of it. Fantastic, after a while of getting the toe pegs down up there end of last summer I made the mistake of trying to get my knee down, like many others, did it, along with everything else! In total about £600, busted hand, leg etc etc.... You just gotta chill and let it come to you. Regarding cornering, like everyone says, just gotta be confident, if you bottle it and brake, you WILL hedge it, if you lean, you might hedge it, but you will probably get round ok, have faith in yourself, just not too much lol.

What i found most helpful to correct my riding was following a friend, someone alot more experienced.... plainly better in every way than me, improved my riding no end!

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Old 29-04-08, 01:23 PM   #42
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LMAO!! Deja-vu of myself last summer i swear, only weeks after passing my test! Couple of farm roads by accident, went straight through a hedge once into an empty field, turn round, rode back out, fixed the hedge the next day. It's not clever i know but it is kinda funny to look back on! Anyway... riding quickly is a long long long learning curve, you really need to take your time!

NEVER EVER chase other bikes, because there are some seriously 5hit hot riders on the roads that have been doing that, track days etc for years, and you will come unstuck trying to keep with them!

My favourite riding ground is Buxton Road, some may have heard of it. Fantastic, after a while of getting the toe pegs down up there end of last summer I made the mistake of trying to get my knee down, like many others, did it, along with everything else! In total about £600, busted hand, leg etc etc.... You just gotta chill and let it come to you. Regarding cornering, like everyone says, just gotta be confident, if you bottle it and brake, you WILL hedge it, if you lean, you might hedge it, but you will probably get round ok, have faith in yourself, just not too much lol.

What i found most helpful to correct my riding was following a friend, someone alot more experienced.... plainly better in every way than me, improved my riding no end!
Good post. My riding improved a lot when I went out for a hoon with my courier friend. Just seeing the lean angles you can do gave me a lot more cinfidence in my tyres and everything. This all was the same for Dan too as following big Ape showed him that you can indeed get your kneedown in the wet!!
 
Old 29-04-08, 01:30 PM   #43
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Good post. My riding improved a lot when I went out for a hoon with my courier friend. Just seeing the lean angles you can do gave me a lot more cinfidence in my tyres and everything. This all was the same for Dan too as following big Ape showed him that you can indeed get your kneedown in the wet!!
Never has anything been more true, one of the most difficult things i found in learning to corner was having faith in my tyres, believing as soon as you lean, they wont go from underneath you. Sure sometimes they slip a little, especially with paint, grids or mud, but most of the time as long as you're not being a fool with your speed in the conditions you are riding in, they DO come back!

But it comes with practise and confidence with everything else. Just take it easy, AND LEAN!!! Big roundabouts are good places to practise leaning (although it's also like target practise for blind drivers at times!).
 
Old 29-04-08, 01:36 PM   #44
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That made me chuckle. I bet the tree one had your heart rate going up a wee bit.

That would have been a Hamlet moment for sure.
 
Old 29-04-08, 01:37 PM   #45
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I think you need to gain confidence and experience.

Look through the bends is the easiest lesson to learn. You would appear to be somewhat target fixated. Thereafter on those country roads with lots of visabilty, use the whole road to get the best line.

But first, put the miles in at your own pace. Don't try to play catch up etc. There is something very nice to come home smiling, knowing that at no time did you have a moment yet the envelope got pushed
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Old 29-04-08, 01:42 PM   #46
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Full marks to you for posting. I am not going to patronise you with advice, because I think you know where you have struggled, it made for intersting watching, a refreshing change from ...'look at me with my knee down arent I cool' All the errors you made I reckon we have all made at some point, and we all get good days and bad days ... confidence is a wonderful thing
 
Old 29-04-08, 03:13 PM   #47
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my last bike had **** tyres and has really knocked me back on my riding

getting the sv has started to help me having trust in going around corners mainly because of the new tyres they have on them
 
Old 29-04-08, 04:19 PM   #48
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Can you PM me six numbers between 1 and 49 for the weekend lottery you lucky *******!

You lived to learn. Good enough.

PS were those gloves issued to you or perchased by you?
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Old 29-04-08, 05:39 PM   #49
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Can you PM me six numbers between 1 and 49 for the weekend lottery you lucky *******!

You lived to learn. Good enough.

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Old 29-04-08, 06:15 PM   #50
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As you've worked out, front brake into a corner can make the bike stand up.

The SV with its rather primitive suspension is particularly prone to this unfortunately. Using the rear brake at the same time will help prevent this. Of course on the road you really want to be braking upright, but when things like this happen you want as many options to escape as possible.

As has been suggested though, looking through the corner is the best thing you can do. Chances are the bike will make it.
 
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