When the brakes are not strong enough, use a bush...

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

As has been suggested though, looking through the corner is the best thing you can do. Chances are the bike will make it.

ride or bike mag done an artical not to long ago where they said in almost al cases of accidents on corners the bike was capable of making it easily, it was the riders error that caused the accident.

i seriously dont want to meet a corner my Kwak cant actually get arround given its cornering ability. thats ITS not mine!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U9iZtBkQ4fs

That should be better to judge my corner ability (or lack of). I do agree that I need to look through the corners more but apart from that I don't think I'm that bad. Maybe I'm mistaken.

Originally Posted by Seggons

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U9iZtBkQ4fs

That should be better to judge my corner ability (or lack of). I do agree that I need to look through the corners more but apart from that I don't think I'm that bad. Maybe I'm mistaken.

I think the short sharp corners are what tests cornering ability rather than long swooping bends, but there were no hedges there so....

I am impressed with the footage. I tried putting a camera on my lid once and, well basically my head evidently moves around so much (up and down as well as side to side) that you couldn't really see the road that often, it was either the clocks, the sky or the verges, with the odd glimpse of the way ahead ... after that I decided to fit it to the bike

Were you trying to keep your head appropriately positioned or did it just work out like that?!!?

Oh and do your brakes work??? ... I couldn't see the nose of the bike diving really when you hit the brakes ... I presume you did hit the brakes?!?!

Cheese and rice man! How long have you been riding. Don't take this the wrong way. You are either a really poor rider or you just had a bad day.

Not once did you look far enough round the corner.
You body is way to stiff to. Get you body off the side of the bike this moves the centre of gravity accross and makes the bike go round the corner easier.

Please just take it easy if your not that confident. I would hate you to become another statistic.

It's not that I'm not confident in my riding because I am very confident in my style of riding. But that's the problem because my riding style is far from the best I know that.
I've been riding for almost 2 years, but only 7 months of that with the SV so I've still got mountains to learn.

The camera doesn't show it very well at all but my body was off the set when going round them bends. I've also got to adjust my feet because it's the arch of my foot on the pegs and not the balls of my feet. Lots to learn and lots of time to learn it.

The next trip I do will be on fresh BT021's so that will boost my confidence no end. I'm taking all the comments on board to.

Out of interest (and sorry for the off topic) but what camera were you using?

Originally Posted by Seggons

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U9iZtBkQ4fs

That should be better to judge my corner ability (or lack of). I do agree that I need to look through the corners more but apart from that I don't think I'm that bad. Maybe I'm mistaken.

In all honesty, that video had zero challenging bends! The few you went round you cut the corner so they were practically straight anyway. By the way, I personally never cut corners, I think it is a terrible habit inviting a severe accident at some point. I do know some extremely good riders that do do it so it is obviously a personal riding preference. I just see my lane as the whole road, and go as fast as I can whithin my own road.

Originally Posted by Seggons

Before I reply here was the route I was on: http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=93564

After adapting it it come to a total of 197 miles of pure riding with no stops.

It didn't help that the tire was just above the legal limit.



Concentration levels dropped and so to did my confidence when getting the bike setup so I never really committed myself to the bend.



It was around the Ramsey area



Totally agree. But I'm sure no matter how experienced or how many courses you've been on it doesn't make a person immune to things like this. Normally if there are people are about I take a whole different attitude to my riding.



Most of the time I look around the bends, but when you get into those situations the concentration moves to braking and keeping the wheels from locking.
If you watch the video very slowly you will see just before hitting the bush I managed to lock the rear wheel, kick the rear to the right so I went slightly side on and missed the main part.
I felt like I was leaning the bike over enough because I got my toe down once and covered 95% of the extremely squared off tire.

Just something I'll put down to experience and learn from.

hey thats the main thing u r ok and u learnt from it, we all make mistakes m8

Originally Posted by Warthog

In all honesty, that video had zero challenging bends! The few you went round you cut the corner so they were practically straight anyway. By the way, I personally never cut corners, I think it is a terrible habit inviting a severe accident at some point. I do know some extremely good riders that do do it so it is obviously a personal riding preference. I just see my lane as the whole road, and go as fast as I can whithin my own road.

I dunno, I did cringe when I saw him use all the road, but that is only because I don't have any roads that open round here, with blind bends it'd be suicide to do that and I only have blond bends ...

On his roads, the way ahead was blatantly clear and visibility was excelent (i.e. no hedgerows or anything, it was perfectly flat too, so perfect view of oncoming traffic, or lack thereof ) ... so I don't see a problem with what he did there ... but 3 of the same kinds of mistake on the same ride ... WTF?!!? ... I like his comment at the end of the vid relating to just that mind

I also cringed as he was missing the apexes, but that is a different observation