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Old 26-05-08, 09:56 PM   #21
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i just clench my butt cheeks and pray its not gonna hurt too much.
Are you talking about crashing, or when you met Bear!?
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Old 26-05-08, 09:57 PM   #22
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TBH a lot of time an accident will happen SOOO fast you wont know what had happened till you get up and think about it.
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Old 26-05-08, 10:06 PM   #23
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Well I actually did have to lay the bike down the other week at Cadwell. I ran wide half way around Chris's and instead of going onto the grass cranked over I sat the bike up.....only then to realise that their isnt actually that much run off so yes I did have to deliberately crash the bike. It was either that or a tyre wall at about 60!!!
That's different, on gravel or grass, or anything else soft the bike will stop loads quicker on it's side as various things turn into ploughs.
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Old 26-05-08, 10:11 PM   #24
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Old 27-05-08, 11:04 AM   #25
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Our mate Tilt from on here laid his bike down deliberately to avoid a crashed rider in front of him, and 3 other mates have done the same thing for the same reason.

Must take real b&lls to do that.
I think what this topic is trying to say though, is that if you have time to consciously 'lay down your bike', you also have time to consciously just steer out of the way. Potentially if you 'lay your bike down you might just slide it in to the back of your mate who's just crashed. (Hopefully you avoid him / her though!) There's an article on 'Panic' and how not to, in this month's Bike, quite good and very relevant to this thread.
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Old 27-05-08, 11:12 AM   #26
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all I'll say on the matter is when a animal of 100 pounds or so decides to take a ride on your front wheel, the only thing that goes through your mind is

''oh sh!!t, oh sh!!t, oh sh!!t'' and feeling the bike doing a 60mph tankslap down a dual cariage way after the impact, makes you scream ''for gods sake don't go down, for gods sake keep the fecckker up''

Luckily I didn't come off, low or high, but I kinda would have been splattered as much as the deer if I hadn't have thought for a split second how to tackle it. AND BELIEVE ME..my whole life flashed before me

How to stay on the back of a bike after any sort of tussle with it, is a sodding miracle, and theres always a story to tell.
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Old 27-05-08, 01:23 PM   #27
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Our mate Tilt from on here laid his bike down deliberately to avoid a crashed rider in front of him, and 3 other mates have done the same thing for the same reason.

Must take real b&lls to do that.
But read YC above. Staying on the rubber & braking and or steering would always be a better option than laying it down which loses all your steering choices & reduces your braking performance.
real balls? - sh*t for brains more like.
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Old 27-05-08, 01:34 PM   #28
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I've been thrashing about all day, I must have destroyed my rear tyre coming out of that last long sweeper; I only got it on new this morning. As I powered out, it just slide round on me and before I knew it, I was off, highside, higher than lorenzo.

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Old 27-05-08, 01:48 PM   #29
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i just clench my butt cheeks and pray its not gonna hurt too much.
Yep, that's my crashing philosophy to. And then blame the real culprit.
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Old 27-05-08, 02:00 PM   #30
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the only time you should lay the bike down is if you are already on gravel or on the grass and no amount of wishfull thinking and rider skill will enable you to turn the bike / brake to a halt before you hit the wall / tree.

It seems crashes of the type mentioned at mainly due to "target fixation" becasue the rider knows they've over-cooked it (for their abilities) and have locked eyes on the target they fear they are going to crash into.

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