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Old 19-02-09, 08:56 PM   #51
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Ralph what year gixer was it do you know ?
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Old 19-02-09, 09:00 PM   #52
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I found the riding position of the 600 gsxr was way more racey than the 750. cant remember the thou...i tend to not really go about sitting on thou's because i dont think i'll ever own a 1000cc sports bike. Although if i did, it'd be an R1. lovely bikes, comfy riding position, and very reasonable intervals between valve clearance checks. And nick sanders rode around the world on one quite succesfully
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Old 19-02-09, 09:01 PM   #53
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What an utterly pointless debate.
Perhaps, which is why I kept my mouth shut until somebody asked. I was in two minds about whether to reply

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It's not hard to guess what it means really, but do you want me to get completely flamed and become very unpopular?.
but I thought, what the hell, somebody has asked, it's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it. I only ask that people respect the opinion, I don't ask that they agree with it. It only seems to be the sportsbike riders that are getting edgy about it.
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but I thought, what the hell, somebody has asked, it's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it. I only ask that people respect the opinion, I don't ask that they agree with it.
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It only seems to be the sportsbike riders that are getting edgy about it.
Its riding a rev hungry, no torque, no midrange, uncomfortable over long distances only good for a track sports bike, its warped my tiny little mind

Actually joking aside, I think this is a damn good thread
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Old 19-02-09, 09:05 PM   #55
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Ralph what year gixer was it do you know ?
I don't exactly, Mexico is usually a model or two behind (my friend wants the F800GS, but it's not released yet), but it was bought new last year. Sportsbikes only sell in Mexico to guys who can afford expensive toys, so it could have been old stock. Lets assume no more than 2-3 years old in UK terms.

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if you ride one to its full potential on the road, you'd be banned.
you could ride a DRZ400 to it's full potential and get banned...
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Rediculously quick, but not quick enough when I wanted it to be. For everyday riding between 0 and 100 mph I prefer the SV.

I told Independant Photo what I thought about it before he test rode it at a Suzuki dealer open day in Edinburgh, his comment afterwards was "yes, I see exactly what you mean" and he changed his mind and decided to stick with the SV.

Sorry, just my actual experience.
if only someone designed and built a sportsbike with not only the mental peak power of the latest 600s but also the low down torque and flexible engine of the SV...

oh wait, they did, it's the Daytona 675
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I found the riding position of the 600 gsxr was way more racey than the 750.
See thats interesting because the later 600 / 750 use the same chassis... so it shoudlnt feel any different riding position wise...
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Lets assume no more than 2-3 years old in UK terms.
So something like a K4 / K5... I rode a K6 and it made plenty of power at 6000rpm. I would have thought that would have to...

I will admit it did take me a little while to adjust to the IL4 after riding the SV, Maybe it was a little of that coupled with the altitude perhaps ?
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See thats interesting because the later 600 / 750 use the same chassis... so it shoudlnt feel any different riding position wise...
I don't know about the 600, but I can say that for the K4-era gixers the thou has a far more aggressive riding position than the 750.
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Actually joking aside, I think this is a damn good thread
Just a pity it's decended into the usual sportsbikes are good, sportsbikes are bad, DRZ400s are awful and Ralph's talking bollox, when the intention was much more simple....

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It's about people who have ridden, loved and lusted after sports bikes all their lives, riding something different and saying to themselves, "hey I really enjoy this", and there is no denying that Britain is changing it's attitudes to the bikes it rides, just look at the sales trends.
and I don't thing anyone can deny that is happening

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I will admit it did take me a little while to adjust to the IL4 after riding the SV, Maybe it was a little of that coupled with the altitude perhaps ?
I think riding side by side defintely makes a difference to how you percieve the bike.

I have changed car from a 130bhp 2.0 diesel to a 140bhp 1.8 petrol. The petrol is a lot slower in most situations absolutely no doubt about it. I've had to learn to start driving everywhere between 3 and 4 thousand revs in situations where I want power on tap, but IMHO I find the increase in engine noise and the gear changing more fatiging.

I felt the same about a 600 Bandit. I'd rather just have power on tap right from low revs and concentrate on getting the best out of the road rather than worrying about getting the best out of the bike.
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