What's happened to manners these days?

What does annoy me is when a bike has filtered to the front, then is very shabby at pulling away when the lights go off red.

Not bad manners though, just not good PR.

Originally Posted by Graciepants

on a serious note though - surely we get annoyed at queue jumpers cos we ave to wait longer, whereas in filtering we dont hold people up?

You'd better ask darylB, he has a knack of stalling at traffic lights

Originally Posted by Ed

Oh not more 'blame the parents, no, let's blame the teachers, no let's blame social workers' stuff...

Isn't it really time that individuals accepted responsibility for their own actions. I mean is my 22 years dead father who hated motorbikes really responsible for me filtering at traffic lights?

Depends if his funeral cortege is still slowly winding its way to the cemetry

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Ed

Isn't it really time that individuals accepted responsibility for their own actions. I mean is my 22 years dead father who hated motorbikes really responsible for me filtering at traffic lights?

Without a doubt, definitely.

He took your teddy away when you were four - causing you to harbour deep feelings of resentment and thus your desire to ride a motorcycle is a simple counter reaction to his dislikes. (Or some other such ludicrous psychobabble.)

Originally Posted by madness

If you can safely pull up alongside the car at the front of the queue, and then beat it away from the lights, then I can't see anything wrong with that, or with filtering in stationary or slow moving traffic, as long as you're not forcing your way through. However, I'm not so sure about pulling up in front of the queue, especially when you have to cross the white stop line to do so. I regularly see that being done. Having had a car licence for 25 years and a bike licence for only 6 months, I probably look at this differently to the average biker.

What's the difference between pulling up next to a car at the front of the queue, and pulling up in front of a car at the front of the queue? Realistically, I can't see a difference - as long as you get away quickly enough (not hard on a bike) you aren't going to be holding them up.

Originally Posted by muffles

What's the difference between pulling up next to a car at the front of the queue, and pulling up in front of a car at the front of the queue? Realistically, I can't see a difference - as long as you get away quickly enough (not hard on a bike) you aren't going to be holding them up.

It's the subtle difference between the car driver thinking 'Bl**dy hell!, I've got a biker alongside, he'll be wanting to beat me away from the lights'

or

'You ignorrant f*cking b*st*rd!'

Originally Posted by madness

It's the subtle difference between the car driver thinking 'Bl**dy hell!, I've got a biker alongside, he'll be wanting to beat me away from the lights'

or

'You ignorrant f*cking b*st*rd!'

Probably just have to agree to disagree then - if a driver's going to think 'You ignorrant f*cking b*st*rd!' if you filter in front of him, he's going to think exactly the same if you filter to the side of him. All IMO of course.

(car driver of 11 years and biker of 3)

Originally Posted by madness

It's the subtle difference between the car driver thinking 'Bl**dy hell!, I've got a biker alongside, he'll be wanting to beat me away from the lights'

or

'You ignorrant f*cking b*st*rd!'

personally i think its the subtle difference of a car driver thinking "you ignorrant blah blah" if you pull in front of him

or


perhaps not even realising you're there if you're next to him

[Wideboy]

lack of discipline, every time i stepped out of line when "i were lad" my dad used to give me a good whack, still does....... i turned out alright...... ish


do the job their parents didn't. Grab them by the neck and smash their faces on the counter all the while repeatedly shouting at them "its rude to push in" ,should do the trick

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I see pretty much all kids are being tarred with the same brush here, not all kids are mannerless little oiks

Thanks for that mate. Really pi*ses me off sometimes when that happens

Originally Posted by Graciepants

perhaps not even realising you're there if you're next to him

That's why baffles should go in the bin