So then, this Griffin muppet...

[Luckypants]

I want to watch it, because I want to see if his ideas and policies stand the scrutiny of reasoned debate (not a slanging match). I hope the other parties have put up good debaters against him.

I expect his ideas to crumble in the face of a reasoned argument and this is the way folk of his ilk are defeated.

To those that have said they won't watch, but are interested in the outcome. WATCH IT! Form your own opinions on this man and his party. See how the mainstream parties debate the issues he brings up, see how he faces up to the debate.

I find Question Time informative, frustrating, enlightening (at times) but never boring.

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Stuff about his personal situation

Was not a go at you personally. I was making the point about when a genuine asylum case become economic migration.

[Spiderman]

no i got your point mate, didnt think you were ahving a go, just thought i needed to clarify how i came to be here thru no fault of my own, lol.
And carries on the idea that all refugees should go to the first port of safety, and if they do carry on they become simple economic migrants as you so rightly say.

Spidey,
I understand all your points, but there is still an underlying wrong message we send out in this country about asylum otherwise those being persecuted in their countries wouldnt travel the distance they do / go to the trouble they do to get here.

I also fully agree with your statement about the other parties not wanting to address these things hence support for the only party (BNP) that seems to want to tackle them.

There is a a lot of claimed asylum seekers who are nothing more than economic migrants. (your situation excluded)

There is also a lot of people travelling from other countries that have no intention of working here, intergrating here, contributing here.

The ones that can offer this country something, then providing there is room, then fair play, welcome.

All i care about is this country, i want it to keep it's traditions, its a predominantly christian country (im not religious) so should remain that way.
I dont think we as british could go to the majority of other countries and get away with the things that some foreigners do here in terms of rights, etc.
Dont get me wrong, there's also a lot of british here who are just freeloaders but the BNP dont mention them for some reason.
Phil

[Ch00]

Looks like theres quite a gathering outside the BBC. Some people were removed from there.

Shut the floodgates we are already drowning on this tiny island. If ANYONE wants to come into this country must have the money in the bank to support themselves and also have a job to come to if they havent either dont bother coming over Australia has it bang to rights in my opinion. As for asylum seekers dont really understand the rules there but if they are genuinely in need then they must be assesed on their own merits. As for the BNP they have every right to be on tv and SOME of their ideas i totally agree with but a hell of a lot are pathetic

[Spiderman]

i'm only half way thru watching this having recorded it earleir tonight.

So far all they are doing is ripping into griffin. I dont think ive seen an episode of question time where only 1 member of the panel has been the focus all the time.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

i'm only half way thru watching this having recorded it earleir tonight.

So far all they are doing is ripping into griffin. I dont think ive seen an episode of question time where only 1 member of the panel has been the focus all the time.

It's a shame, I missed the program itself (damn Windows 7...) but every clip I've viewed so far has been him trying to make a point and being shouted down by the other panelists, with a riotous yell from the audiance

Undoubtedly a disaster for Freeman and the BNP, but that was always going to be the case, his policies and views were never going to make it possible for him to make a logical argument. The sad thing is the other panelists, and to some extent the audience, seemed to stoop to the whooping, childish level you'd expect from a bunch of Nazi skinheads. I almost expected someone to start a "Jerry.. Jerry.. Jerry..." chant any moment. Sad because they didn't have to make themselves look so unable to rebuff such a poor argument calmly and logically

A victory for democracy? I thnk the only victor was trash TV

[Viney]

I ended up going to the pub so missed it. Will watch it on Iplayer tonight when i get home. Apprently though it wasnt as good as it could have been!

I watched it this morning on iPlayer. None of them conducted themselves very well in my opinion, including Nick Griffin.

I did expect him to be able to espouse his opinons better, because when you have extreme/different (delete as appropriate) views you had better be good at the rhetoric/background/facts/getting the message home. He was no Adolph Hitler , Mosely or Enoch Powell, (insert name of leader/politician with extremist viewpoint here) then again they never had to go on Question Time (well maybe Powell did, no idea)

He is obviously a rallying point, which is of course an important issue.