Bad plumbing

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

It was a parade in public.Plenty of public servants in uniform get photographed doing their duty in public places.Now maybe we should have some right to not be in someones happy snaps,but we dont.It goes with the territory so live with it.

may i sugget you reread my post
i said he had the right ,i said there was nothing that could be done legally, what i did say is i would ask
and as for "live with it" if i didnt like it I would have forcablely removed the camera and taken the conciquinces from the authorities, not only that it does not go with the teritory i was paid to fight for my country not get my personal security comprimised by some want to be journo, thanks very much

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

It was a parade in public.Plenty of public servants in uniform get photographed doing their duty in public places.Now maybe we should have some right to not be in someones happy snaps,but we dont.It goes with the territory so live with it.

We do have the right not to be in a published photograph whether it is taken in public or not.

A photographer is supposed to obtain an image release before putting the photograph up for publication. Individuals also have image rights.

Its not illegal to take the photograph but it is illegal to publish it without permission. Its not something that is often enforced, especially as after the fact you can't unpublish it.

Originally Posted by Bri w

We do have the right not to be in a published photograph whether it is taken in public or not.

A photographer is supposed to obtain an image release before putting the photograph up for publication. Individuals also have image rights.

Its not illegal to take the photograph but it is illegal to publish it without permission. Its not something that is often enforced, especially as after the fact you can't unpublish it.

Not true. If you are in a place with no expectation of privacy (a street crowd for instance, or street performing) then no release is necessary.

this is just the thin end of the wedge

I'll tell you what lads. I'm going to confiscate your bike. Right now ...What for? ... erm ... I don't need a reason, I AM the law. We're getting it taken away on a lorry, on suspicion of terrorism. Yeah. Argue and I'll give you a section 5 too. Well you shouldn't have tried to ride it in public you know. Terrorism and beards an that.



The first thing the policeman said was 'you can't take pictures of kids'. Not 'could you please move along, you're in the way'.

Habeas corpus has never taken such a hit, as since the turn of the century.

Originally Posted by Bri w

We do have the right not to be in a published photograph whether it is taken in public or not.

A photographer is supposed to obtain an image release before putting the photograph up for publication. Individuals also have image rights.

Its not illegal to take the photograph but it is illegal to publish it without permission. Its not something that is often enforced, especially as after the fact you can't unpublish it.

As above. You don't need to sign release forms if you're in a public space.

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by davepreston

may i sugget you reread my post
i said he had the right ,i said there was nothing that could be done legally, what i did say is i would ask
and as for "live with it" if i didnt like it I would have forcablely removed the camera and taken the conciquinces from the authorities, not only that it does not go with the teritory i was paid to fight for my country not get my personal security comprimised by some want to be journo, thanks very much

I dont disagree with your sentiments but the point remains----It does go with the territory in many occupations including mine.I dont like it either and it can have some very unfortunate consequences but our only option to avoid it is quit.Indeed the plumbers themselves are very vulnerable to being identified and victimised away from the workplace.

If you don't want to be seen as in the army. Don't put your uniform on and march down the street with a platoon, trumpets, drums, fanfares on frickin armed forces day!

Originally Posted by tigersaw

He sounds a gobby know it all pain in the ass, what big deal was it just to move along in the first place as requested?

Why the f**king hell should he?

He wasn't breaking the law, and as such the officers had no right to harrass him the way they did. So the kid knows the law - good for him, which is more than can be said of the Met officers who detained him and then tried to pin a false charge of breach of the peace on him when he instnctively swore after being pushed down steps - that was disgusting behaviour on the part of the police. I don't think he was being a gobby PITA, I think he was reasonable and obviously knew more about the law than the officers did, maybe they just didn't like the fact he was obviously more intelligent.

We don't live in a police state, yet, so why should this lad be forced to comply with spurious attempts to stop him filming legally by these specific police officers, who need to go back and do some basic training on how to deal efficiently with the public, and also to learn something about the laws they are paid a fairly good chunk of my taxes to enforce.

Please don't get me wrong, I like the police in general and think they do a difficult and thankless job, but when I see things like this it really makes me wonder why more officers like this aren't seriously disciplined when situations like this come to light. I'd be very interested to see if any of those officers involved were properly disciplined in any way.

Originally Posted by Bri w

We do have the right not to be in a published photograph whether it is taken in public or not.

A photographer is supposed to obtain an image release before putting the photograph up for publication. Individuals also have image rights.

Its not illegal to take the photograph but it is illegal to publish it without permission. Its not something that is often enforced, especially as after the fact you can't unpublish it.

The only country I know where this is actually law, is France

I work in a huge tourist area, I get my photo taken all the time...