A life saving skill.......

[Littlepeahead]

I'm going to start wearing a badge on my leathers that says - please try and help me if I'm dying - I promise I won't sue you.

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Theres new specific legislation to remove the 'Myth' of people being able to be sued for providing first aid.

[Bri w]

Knowing the basics should be an ambition for everyone, and for us bikers it should include telling the good Samaritan not to take off the helmet off unless the 'patient' has breathing difficulties.

But it's not just about CPR!

I've not had a refresher since 1974, and I should get one, although I read up a lot. But I've dealt with numerous breaks, severe cuts, head injuries, a drowning and an electric shock all of which should be dealt with in a specific way. As to ambulance chasers and vacarious liability, I'd sooner be the subject of a court case than have someone die leaving me to think if only I'd got involved.

And a shock advisory defib is easier to use than your microwave, so don't be frightened of one.

Originally Posted by maviczap

But you must be aware of vacarious liability - ie if you go to help someone if you're trained and get it wrong they could sue you - charming.

So some doctors may avoid getting involved, and leave it to the Paramedics to deal with.

Unlike someone who is untrained, is looked on as a good samaritan.

Something to thank the 'where's there's blame, there's a claim' culture

Very sad but true. I've furtunately never come accross an accident where CPR was needed, but it would definitely make me think twice

Originally Posted by maviczap

That might have changed recently, we were taught to use Nellie the Elephant

Stayin Alive might be the latest, I forget what we were using

I have heard Nellie the Elephant also. They must work though because they do stick in your head

Originally Posted by maviczap

I was only refering to CPR, but even if you did 15:2 instead of 30:2, you'd still be be better than doing nothing at all

The first hour is the 'golden hour' the better you do for the paitent in the 1st hour, the better the long term outcome.

Im pretty certain the 'golden hour' is trauma based the magic number for CPR is eight minutes! thats the time the person needs the defib by for best chance of recovery! Also a big thing to mention noone else has is the need to get help. CPR is all well and good but most will need the defib so make sure that is coming first before doing anything else!

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by B1k3R

Sorry but +1 on this. Even that big fat bloke is suing the NHS for "letting" him get too fat. Here serious pie eater.

Yes, he's a local lad. Sueing because the NHS didn't treat his pie eating as serious enough

Originally Posted by maviczap

The only thing with this is you must keep your training up to date, certainly in CPR, as the Resitation council change how its done as new reserch finds out what works best.

What does all that mean to someone like me who had a basic course back in high school, 15 years ago?

Yes Nellie the Elephant is correct, something I was taught as the correct pace for CPR. However I would suggest keeping it your mind and not bursting out into song!

[Littlepeahead]

Yep, first action is call for help and get an ambulance.

As for sueing because you've eaten too many pies - that's like me suing Sainsbury's because they keep letting me buy cheese.

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by metalangel

What does all that mean to someone like me who had a basic course back in high school, 15 years ago?

In what respect, being sued or doing it the right way