SV650.org - SV650 & Gladius 650 Forum



Bikes - Talk & Issues Newsworthy and topical general biking and bike related issues. No crapola!
Need Help: Try Searching before posting

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 28-06-11, 08:50 AM   #11
yorkie_chris
Noisy Git
Mega Poster
 
yorkie_chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Halifax/Leeds
Posts: 26,645
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

Bikes are pretty loud with open pipes but if you hear a big V8 with no pipes you will know noise! Different league of loudness!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesy D View Post
Just my 2 cents (I did my work experience with MHP exhausts, so know a little bit, having built both a race and road system and repaired a fair few more)

In terms of performance, an end can on its own will actually only give you minimal power increases - some of them claim up to 5bhp, it's closer to 2 or 3. What you want to increase power is a full system, as these will have pipework which has significantly fewer bends and kinks, and those bends and kinks that are present will be smoother. This allows the gasses to flow better, which in turn increases performance.

On the 'why not use any end-can' question, the end can itself produces back-pressure which is important in the cycle of an engine. The exact details elude me but they are nessecary to maintain or improve performance, especially midrange power. Stubbying an exhaust basically removes the resonant chamber of the exhaust and reduces that back pressure, hence the loss power which is most keenly felt in the midrange.
Ah the great backpressure myth! Wondered how long it would take to see that
__________________
Currently Ex Biker
Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat
yorkie_chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 08:50 AM   #12
yorkie_chris
Noisy Git
Mega Poster
 
yorkie_chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Halifax/Leeds
Posts: 26,645
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

Quote:
Originally Posted by barwel1992 View Post
sounds good though

and to add if you want to make a loud can very loud take the packing out
That makes it even peakier.
__________________
Currently Ex Biker
Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat
yorkie_chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 09:01 AM   #13
AndyBrad
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkie_chris View Post
bikes are pretty loud with open pipes but if you hear a big v8 with no pipes you will know noise! Different league of loudness!



Ah the great backpressure myth! Wondered how long it would take to see that :-p
i didnt realise it was a myth?
  Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 09:03 AM   #14
Geodude
Member
Mega Poster
 
Geodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Durham
Posts: 2,676
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

So for a normal rider like me on the verge of cutting off the oem can and replacing it with a delkevic stubby cause me any noticable power loss or problems? or will it just cause jaw ache from constant grinning
__________________
Black naked 1999 sv650 which im trying to keep happy
Custom paintwork Saragon Customs Spray painting

Electrical fault finding guide and Regulator rectifier test

Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.
Geodude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 09:20 AM   #15
Nobbylad
Member
Mega Poster
 
Nobbylad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: West Lancs
Posts: 4,055
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geodude View Post
So for a normal rider like me on the verge of cutting off the oem can and replacing it with a delkevic stubby cause me any noticable power loss or problems? or will it just cause jaw ache from constant grinning
Probably the jaw ache! Closely followed by the purchase of many ear plugs!

I've been running my stubby CCC for over 2 years now and still don't get tired of the sound. I do wear ear plugs/headphones all the time as you just can't ride it otherwise.

I did pop the baffle in recently for a week or two and did feel that the bike was more responsive/quicker to accelerate. Top end wasn't affected at all, but accelerating did feel quicker with the baffle in.

Of course that could be some noise/mind induced tomfoolery, however I do the same journey, every day of the week and have done for the last 3 years on the bike, so pretty much in tune with even subtle changes.

I guess a couple of dyno runs would tell one way or the other.
Nobbylad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 09:22 AM   #16
dizzyblonde
Da Cake Boss
Mega Poster
 
dizzyblonde's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On a flying Horse
Posts: 9,992
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

No noticeable power loss IMO...to any lay person.
Had differing sorts of links on the SVs and would have noticed any power loss, especially with the huge hi level and stubbied Scorpion. Going from standard to Leos on the VRap hasn't unearthed anything either as far as power is concerned.

Grin factor gauranteed!
__________________
Suzy, yellow 2001 SVS. Kitty, V-Raptor 1000, ZZR1400<<its my bike now Pegasus!

Hovis 13.8.75-3.10.09 Reeder 20.7.88-21.3.12
dizzyblonde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 09:26 AM   #17
Geodude
Member
Mega Poster
 
Geodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Durham
Posts: 2,676
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

So big grins all the way then Cheers for the peace of mind Nobby and Dizz
__________________
Black naked 1999 sv650 which im trying to keep happy
Custom paintwork Saragon Customs Spray painting

Electrical fault finding guide and Regulator rectifier test

Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.
Geodude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 09:37 AM   #18
dizzyblonde
Da Cake Boss
Mega Poster
 
dizzyblonde's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: On a flying Horse
Posts: 9,992
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

Should you however notice anything untoward and not to your liking, go talk to an expert
__________________
Suzy, yellow 2001 SVS. Kitty, V-Raptor 1000, ZZR1400<<its my bike now Pegasus!

Hovis 13.8.75-3.10.09 Reeder 20.7.88-21.3.12
dizzyblonde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 09:38 AM   #19
Geodude
Member
Mega Poster
 
Geodude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Durham
Posts: 2,676
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzyblonde View Post
Should you however notice anything untoward and not to your liking, go talk to an expert
Hehe nice disclaimer
__________________
Black naked 1999 sv650 which im trying to keep happy
Custom paintwork Saragon Customs Spray painting

Electrical fault finding guide and Regulator rectifier test

Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.
Geodude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-11, 10:06 AM   #20
Owenski
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The makings of exhausts

I was planning on making the arrow end can on the DRz a stubby can... is this a bad idea then?
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Exhausts allantheboss Bikes - Talk & Issues 6 13-01-10 01:34 PM
2 exhausts? Stu Moto GP 15 29-06-08 11:00 PM
MTC Exhausts Girth Exhausts 0 15-06-07 06:46 PM
Exhausts GSXR Carlos SV Talk, Tuning & Tweaking 4 01-06-05 11:09 AM
exhausts for k5 svs latts650s SV Talk, Tuning & Tweaking 2 24-05-05 08:11 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® - Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.