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Old 12-05-06, 03:17 PM   #11
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OK, just got my son to go to the shed an get it (ain't study leave great).

Both are single element H1 bulds and the righthand (sitting on the bike) has no shielding at all, so must be mainbeam as there isn't anyway to modify the light patten,, however the Left (projector) has a low shield across the bottom with the left corner cut off (dip to the Left) how bizzare isn't that wrong?.

I can't understand it myself as the lights are crappy enough with two on, but on dipped you can only have the projector pointing at the ground?

Still ignore my last couple of post here, as evidently I'm wrong, I mistakenly use logic, unlike Mr Suzuki.

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Old 12-05-06, 03:23 PM   #12
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OK, just got my son to go to the shed an get it (ain't study leave great).

Both are single element H1 bulds and the righthand (sitting on the bike) has no shielding at all, so must be mainbeam as there isn't anyway to modify the light patten,, however the Left (projector) has a low shield across the bottom with the left corner cut off (dip to the Left) how bizzare isn't that wrong?.

I can't understand it myself as the lights are crappy enough with two on, but on dipped you can only have the projector pointing at the ground?

Still ignore my last couple of post here, as evidently I'm wrong, I mistakenly use logic, unlike Mr Suzuki.

Cheers Mark.
Thanks for your input on this!

So any idea on how to improve the lighting on this thing without changing the whole setup for a UK spec one (which I believe would be dipping to the "wrong" side of the road around here)?...
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Old 12-05-06, 03:25 PM   #13
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OK, new advice, if you're going to take the light housing to bits, take the shield out from the Projector, adjustit up to make a good main beam, swap the H1 in the other light to a H4 (don't worry the H1 is in a holder that fits the H4 bulb, so just do use the holder and it'll fit, fix the shield from the projector in front of the H4 bulb, to dip the right way (to the left) and run a wire from the live on the projector to the main on the H4 and just use your dip/main switch the wrong way around ( or of course you could swap the wires over).

You'll now have an unrestricted projector and main from the H4 for main beam, and a normal single H4 dipped.

Cheers Mark.
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Old 12-05-06, 04:01 PM   #14
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OK, new advice, if you're going to take the light housing to bits, take the shield out from the Projector, adjustit up to make a good main beam, swap the H1 in the other light to a H4 (don't worry the H1 is in a holder that fits the H4 bulb, so just do use the holder and it'll fit, fix the shield from the projector in front of the H4 bulb, to dip the right way (to the left) and run a wire from the live on the projector to the main on the H4 and just use your dip/main switch the wrong way around ( or of course you could swap the wires over).

You'll now have an unrestricted projector and main from the H4 for main beam, and a normal single H4 dipped.

Cheers Mark.
Sounds like great advice there, I'll just have to save it till later when I can actually follow your line of thought! If I were to do that on my bike, I'm assuming I'd have to fix the shield to dip to the right, right?

Thanks, I might really think about this in a few days.
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Old 12-05-06, 06:22 PM   #15
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OK, new advice, if you're going to take the light housing to bits, take the shield out from the Projector, adjustit up to make a good main beam, swap the H1 in the other light to a H4 (don't worry the H1 is in a holder that fits the H4 bulb, so just do use the holder and it'll fit, fix the shield from the projector in front of the H4 bulb, to dip the right way (to the left) and run a wire from the live on the projector to the main on the H4 and just use your dip/main switch the wrong way around ( or of course you could swap the wires over).

You'll now have an unrestricted projector and main from the H4 for main beam, and a normal single H4 dipped.

Cheers Mark.
'been thinking a bit about that highlighted part; won't that make the "pass" switch behave the wrong way too? i.e., bike always in main beam, "flash" and it'll dip? Or is the "pass" switch wired to the the dip/main switch?
In the first case, wouldn't it be better to, like you say, swap the wires over at the headlights? Left projector would go on the right H4 dip, right main would go to the projector, and a live wire from the projector to the main on the H4. Or have I just made a big friggin' mess?
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Old 13-05-06, 02:52 PM   #16
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Hi folks! Been lurking around this site for a cople of months now and maybe it's time for me to start posting once in a while too? I must say I find the forum to be a really good one. Frendly people (by the look of it), the odd "fight" and loads of sound (and some times not so sound ) advice.

Living in Norway I also have the dual H1 set up with a dipped projector beam on the left and full beam on the right hand side, and I too find the light to be less than satisfactory

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the SV headlight unit, although looking like it just clips together is actually glued and very difficult to get apart
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OK, new advice, if you're going to take the light housing to bits, take the shield out from the Projector, adjustit up to make a good main beam, swap the H1 in the other light to a H4 (don't worry the H1 is in a holder that fits the H4 bulb, so just do use the holder and it'll fit, fix the shield from the projector in front of the H4 bulb, to dip the right way (to the left) and run a wire from the live on the projector to the main on the H4 and just use your dip/main switch the wrong way around ( or of course you could swap the wires over).

You'll now have an unrestricted projector and main from the H4 for main beam, and a normal single H4 dipped.

Cheers Mark.

This is very interesting, although it will require a lot of work. But if I'm getting it right there might be a way to make it even better (on european roads at least). On full beam both bulbs are shining, on dipped (low beam) only the left projector is shining. Now I haven't thought this thoroughly through yet (and I'm away at work so no access to bike for a check either), so please bear with me..

Right:

What if you leave the left projector beam as it is for dipped beam and do the H4 mod suggested above to the right hand lamp where the holder sits, except getting it to dip to the right (or is it the other way around?) for european roads. For gazz1e or others looking to convert a european unit to a uk on, you would have to modify both reflectors to dip to the left (again: or is it the other way around?)

Then you wire the low beam from the left H1 in parallell into the low beam connector on the H4 bulb and connect the wire for high beam into the high beam connector on the H4 bulb. This way you should get low beam from both lamps and on high beam you should have the old set up with a projected low beam on the left side and a full beam on the right. This would double the light output in low beam. Or am I making a balls of it here?

The load from two bulbs might be too much for the wires, so maybe a relay and extra fuse for the H4's low beam would be a good idea?




Oh, and btw. I've got a 2k curvy svs (the pointy ones just look wrong!) which I bought only two months ago. It then had 10k km on the clock and apart from a fractured left side fairing seems to be in good shape.


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Old 13-05-06, 03:55 PM   #17
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Hi All,

Right,on some cars e.g BMW's they have projector-type headlamps for dipped beam,and conventional,single filament bulbs for main beam,using separate lamp units.

The point I will get to,is here,SOME of the Beemers have a bulb holder that can be changed to continental or UK position just by rotating the bulb holder. IF this is the case,why not just alter the position of the bulb?
To try this,all you have to do is take the retainer clip off the bulb holder,rotate the bulb(with it on),and see if the 'kick-up' changes!?

If it does,you could either modify the bulb holder,or grind the location tabs off of the bulb,and then refit.

My old boss did this when he was going to the 'Bol-d'or' in france on his Fireblade,worked a treat!!!

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