Who has a degree and doesn't use for their job?

Originally Posted by Lissa

My son graduated from Newport Uni last year with a degree in Sport Science. He's always been seriously into health and fitness, does body buliding and mountain biking, but since leaving Uni he's worked for a building society

Last night though I had a call from him to tell me he's been accepted by Reading Uni to do a post grad teaching course concentrating on PE and sport. There were only 11 places and almost 200 applicants, so as you can imagine he's feeling really good. My son..a teacher! Don't know whether that's brave or stupid

He will be chuffed. I play squash at Reading Uni. They have some pretty fit female students.

[Lissa]

Originally Posted by BigApe

He will be chuffed. I play squash at Reading Uni. They have some pretty fit female students.

Hmmm................I don't think I'll mention that fact to his partner, then

Originally Posted by Spanner Man

Nice to see you exhibiting the wonderfully selfish attitudes that prevail amongst people bought up since the Thatcher years.

What's selfish about a desire to see the country progress?

Originally Posted by Spanner Man

For starters, not everyone can do, for want of a better term 'white collar work'. In the same way that not everyone could learn to play the guitar, play tennis, or dance the foxtrot for that matter. You need a thing called aptitude. If you haven't got it you're stuffed! What's more there aren't enough such careers for the entire workforce in any case.
In my view, most people have a skill which could be used to gain a reasonable income. This is sometimes not apparent until one has tried ones hand at a few different things. Therefore if the opportunities aren't there once again one is stuffed!

Furthermore, I believe that any community, or society for that matter, should be as diverse as possible. In this case the more diverse a communities employment opportunities are, the more chance one has of finding a job where one can put ones skills to good effect, & hopefully earn a decent crust. Hardly the view of a Luddite eh!

Of course the end of manufacturing doesn't mean that there wont be employment. I'm sure there will be lots of exiting careers to be had in the tourism & fast food retailing sector. Which is really something to look forward to when you leave school.

Cheers.

There's now a greater variety of jobs than ever before, but you're saying there are less opportunities for people? And at the same time complaining that there aren't enough unskilled jobs, but it's terrible that that's all people have to look forward to after leaving school?

You're making no sense what so ever.

I would like to make the following points.

Manufactruing went to idia and china because they do the same job for less. It's that simple. Funny thing is, most chinese firms make their products for British firms, who then sell them here. They don't sell them direct. They wouldn't have a clue what we want. The ipod is the classic example, but for the US. So there are plenty of uk firms that are just doing this as a way to compete.

Second point is this. Some of you know that I work in finance and I have worked with and interviewed many high fliers from many countries. What you should know is that the english university system and work culture is very non-vocational when it comes to this kind of role. English people have a lot of options when they leave uni and that is something I am very proud of. You take australia for example. If you want an accountancy job there, you need an accountancy degree. If you have a science degree then you can get an accountancy job here, but not there.

Myself? I don't use anything about the General Relativity that I learned at uni, but I know that if something is really hard, it can't harder than that! What I do use is the problem solving and analytical skills. I also need some maths and some abstract thinking.

[Spanner Man]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

What's selfish about a desire to see the country progress?



There's now a greater variety of jobs than ever before, but you're saying there are less opportunities for people? And at the same time complaining that there aren't enough unskilled jobs, but it's terrible that that's all people have to look forward to after leaving school?

You're making no sense what so ever.

Read my posts again child!.....At no point have I said that we need more unskilled work. Quite the opposite infact.
My point, for those incapable of reading English, is that; Manufacturing industry contained everything from Skilled production & maintenance opportunities, work for 'white collar scum' & unskilled work of the hump & grunt/cleaning variety.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by Spanner Man

Read my posts again child!.....At no point have I said that we need more unskilled work. Quite the opposite infact.
My point, for those incapable of reading English, is that; Manufacturing industry contained everything from Skilled production & maintenance opportunities, work for 'white collar scum' & unskilled work of the hump & grunt/cleaning variety.

Cheers.

Whilst you aren't capable of grasping the most basic economic principles I suggest you don't insult my intelligence.

[northwind]

COngratulations everyone! You both lose. My recommendation now is that somebody comparese the other to Hitler, and we'll have all the boxes ticked.

[Spanner Man]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Whilst you aren't capable of grasping the most basic economic principles I suggest you don't insult my intelligence.

Telling someone who has run his own business since you were playing with dollies he knows nothing about economics is a tad rich methinks!..... Insult your intelligence? What are you going to do? Wait for me after school!

I'm afraid you've totally missed my point regarding the social impact that the decreasing number of varied employment opportunities have had over the last 30 years.

Zieg heil to you Northy

Cheers.

If anyone could find a definitive answer to what went wrong with past politics they would be sitting in power right now. Your personal circumstances whether in work, family, class or financially, geographically and socially are all going to play a part in your view. You can only be entirely correct from your perspective and that only rings true to yourself. It's an interesting talking point but not one that requires jibes to come to a conclusion. Arguing over who knows most due to their age is just laughable; ask Tony Blackburn for hairstyle advice if you want proof

[Biker Biggles]

Ho ho what a can of worms we have opened.
Im no economist and attended the Toothickfor University but the basics are pretty simple.The capitalist economic system relies on growth,and that applies to individual companies and whole economies alike.Thus there is a constant requirement to expand into new markets in order to exploit them and make profits.Ultimately this means exporting goods and services to bring in fresh money,just like China is doing by manufacturing everything and flogging it to the rest of the world.We used to do that,but hardly do it any more,so we are left with re-circulating money already in our economy.This means for two decades we have been living off the proceeds of selling the family silver,and or borrowing against the same silver.Just like any increasing debt,there comes a time when it has to be paid off,and that is when our economy will collapse,as it is no longer underwritten by anything of substance that we actually own or can produce.We are living off the fruits of our parents and grandparents labours,and those fruits wont last forever.