so she obviously deserved it...

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Get onto CICA.
We could all on a winner here.

Here's a link.

Originally Posted by sarah

Here's a link.

Yet you pay for the privilege of having your car stolen. Reminds me of the film 'Chopper' & the 'victims of crime' payments.

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

Yet you pay for the privilege of having your car stolen. Reminds me of the film 'Chopper' & the 'victims of crime' payments.

Yup, it only covers criminal injuries.

[anna]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Whatever.

You don't seem to be able to justify your position that, for some reason, being drunk makes a woman a vulnerable innocent, but makes men dangerous sexual predators fully aware of their actions however inebriated they are.

Thankfully juries tend not agree with you though, which is why there are so many acquittals.

no I see that you've managed to quite deliberately miss the point of the whole thread but never mind.. and I'm not sure that is the sole reason for acquittals but I digress.

Originally Posted by anna

no I see that you've managed to quite deliberately miss the point of the whole thread but never mind.. and I'm not sure that is the sole reason for acquittals but I digress.

I'm not missing the point at all, im bringing up points that you youself were dicussing earlier in the thread. I challenge your pov and suddenly I'm changing the subject

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

I'm not missing the point at all, im bringing up points that you youself were dicussing earlier in the thread. I challenge your pov and suddenly I'm changing the subject

It's always the mans fault you see. He's guilty before he's even laid his eyes on a woman. Duh!

[anna]

FS that wasnt what I was saying at all.. my main argument was that argument was that alcohol consumption should not be taken as a sign that a person has attributed to their rape... male or female!

[anna]

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

It's always the mans fault you see. He's guilty before he's even laid his eyes on a woman. Duh!

whats needed is a justice system that works and not send the rapist to prison for 5 years for him to be let out in 2.5
as for G2Dzzy - i hope you are never in that situation - i've been invoved both sides and it devastating when you have deal with blinkered views like that.
compensation - least she got it - my mat got offered counselling at that was it!

But i can see both sides it shouldn't be taken in account for compensation for anyone who's classed as a victim and it shouldn't be automatically assumed that they were an easy target. to throw a different scenario into the pot - which has happened
you get caught in a catholic town wearing a blue non football top and you get beaten up - wd you cut compensation because they sd have known not to wear a blue top.

This debate will rage on and on till society changes and the attitude to alcohol change. While its still acceptable to binge drink it will also be used by both sides in any crime to shift blame. as for rape - it will create barriers on both sexes and I would love to see the women who cry rape when it wasn't prosecuted (strange froma women i know) it will add credability to those who have suffered and take the step to report.

Originally Posted by Quedos

compensation - least she got it - my mat got offered counselling at that was it!

Counselling is what they should get, as that is what helps people recover. Money is not a band aid, it just encourages people to abuse the system.