Death Penalty Poll

[yorkie_chris]

So's child abuse.

[Messie]

Really? Is it an infection or bacteria? Airborne or fluid exchange?

Peodophilia may be caused by something exogenous (being abused themselves or neglected) or it may be a brain disease ( you know like a disease of any other organ)

But infectious it is not.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

So's child abuse.

Normally, although we often disagree, your arguments are well thought out however that was a ridiculous statement.

Child abuse is not catching. Like Messie said, there may be contributory factors, such as a person having been the victim of sexual abuse as a child and then going on to become the abuser. However, to make a comment that it is infectious was just a tad ignorant.

[Viney]

Ok digging this one up out of the archives as this story has broken today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14400246

I like this

anonymity for rape defendants and limiting jail food to bread and water

Originally Posted by Messie

Really? Is it an infection or bacteria? Airborne or fluid exchange?

Peodophilia may be caused by something exogenous (being abused themselves or neglected) or it may be a brain disease ( you know like a disease of any other organ)

But infectious it is not.

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Normally, although we often disagree, your arguments are well thought out however that was a ridiculous statement.

Child abuse is not catching. Like Messie said, there may be contributory factors, such as a person having been the victim of sexual abuse as a child and then going on to become the abuser. However, to make a comment that it is infectious was just a tad ignorant.

Totally agree.
When I was at college ( many years ago ), I had to do a 5000 word essay on all forms of child abuse. 6 months of investigating led me to the conclusion that abuse has always been with us and that there are many reasons for abuse. There are environmental, physical, emotional, psychological factors that need to be addressed in each case of abuse.
This means that one form of punishment is not going to be ideal for each case and will certainly not stop the problem.

As for the death penalty, i'm all for it, if it fits the crime.

Ste.

[Bibio]

hhhmmm difficult one this.

i would say yes for horrendous pre meditated murder and serial killings. but no for accidental like fights and such. then you have passion killings where partners get caught in bed with someone else.

but on the other hand is it not better to imprison and let them serve a life sentence till they die as sometimes death is to quick a punishment.

anyone can be made a killer given the right circumstances. for instance a child gets run over and dies, the offender gets off lightly so the parents seek retribution and kill the offender. this makes the murder pre meditated so the parents get the death penalty.

[phi-dan]

Originally Posted by Quedos

I like this

anonymity for rape defendants and limiting jail food to bread and water

I'd go for anonymity for all defendants. If they're found guilty - go ahead and name them.

I'll admit to being biased on this - a relative was accused of a heinous crime and the resulting media attention took not only his ability to work and his reputation, but ultimately his life. The media were panned at the inquest, but in the long run it means that the truth of the accusations, and any subsequent guilt / innocence will never be known. We should have trial by judge and jury, not media and public perception.

[garynortheast]

No. There's no return from a state killing in the event of a wrongful conviction. Ask Timothy Evans relatives what they think of the death penalty.

[MisterTommyH]

There are too many mis-carriages of justice to even consider bringing the death penalty. It's the one sentence that is irreversible.


And IMHO even one mis-carriage that leads to the death penalty is too many. Thats why we got rid of it.