11 year old girl to be a mum....UPDATED

[Viney]

Originally Posted by kitten

sorry but, science hasnt proved out like that yet and unless u are in fact God or can regress urself to that age, then dont make out u know that stuff.
Apologies but I'm a strong believer in attemting to avoid abortion, I understand the adoption route but the destroying of a life evn only a potential one is definitely messin with nature and is still murder unless it really is the only option that fits.
sorry

Fair enough, but i would think its common bloody sense.

coolio, I can c what u mean but I guess I just dont agree, x

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

If you pay tax it effects you.

I don't But if I did, would it affect me? Would I pay more because of some debbie getting pregnant at 11? I don't think so. And it's not even a case of "If more poeple did it then..." as they won't, because if this was a common occurance then it wouldn't be front page news

Originally Posted by Saint Matt

I don't But if I did, would it affect me? Would I pay more because of some debbie getting pregnant at 11? I don't think so. And it's not even a case of "If more poeple did it then..." as they won't, because if this was a common occurance then it wouldn't be front page news

cos she 11 it made front page news!
teenage pregnancy is very common and on the increase! therefore more sprogs with no one working to give them a quality of living so they scrounge off the state to support themselves!
where that money come from?
its not made for them!
we pay it in taxes!

Originally Posted by Gazza77

Sex with a minor is illegal, therefore he has been charged, quite rightly. However, when they are both minors in this case, why not charge them both?!

Might discourage a few lasses, as they might realise that they would face the legal consequences, not just the lad.

I agree show should face charges and so should her mum. She's beenleft babysitting her younger brother.(which she reckons is just like looking afetr it)

At 12 she reckons she a good mum smokes roll up and drinks reguarly. Am i thick or is she living in a fantasy world.
I feel sorry for them all. the mothers proud of the daughter
The baby didn't ask for any of this. The girl no doubt will live on state benefits for years and may get a job but without quali's - i think not. Its hard not to generalise in this situation and I hope it all come good.
All we hope for is that she finds it B*****y hard to raise that kid, but we all know when it gets hard grandma will take over. I wonder if the kid will realise who the real mother is?

Who failed who though?

feel sorry for the baby. i dont believe abortion should be forced on her who are we to say she cannot have a baby. heard this on radio yesterday and first thing the do gooders do is blame the school. this is squarely on the shoulders of the parents. my daughter is 13 and its quite scary when i hear what other kids at her school are going at weekend. ie going out getting drunk, hanging about the street and a few months ago 4 14 year old kids murdered a man. they are now back at school awaiting trial. its down to the parents, i always want to know where my daughter is, where she is going and who is going to be there. but i remember being young myself (was a long time ago).

Basically there is no respect in todays society. no one has respect for anyone else. kids dont respect adults just for being adults. therefore kids have no respect for themself.

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[timwilky]

I notice many of you are quick to condem the parents. I have a daughter who is badly off the rails since the age of 13 now 20.

There are some children from the most loving and caring of homes that have something in their heads that makes them not give a damm. I do not condem the mother of this girl although her comments are a little inappropriate. I wonder what help she has asked for and what help she has been given.

It is my experience that the social services etc are unwilling to help families and children until something happens to force them to get involved. Pre emptive requests from parents are simply brushed under the carpet.

Originally Posted by Foey

According to the times on line she got pregnant by the 15 year old during a "drunken binge", JESUS, at eleven i would have had my ears boxed for even trying to sip an alcoholic drink without my parents consent.

"I'm not ashamed of my daughter at all - in fact, I'm proud of her...

Proud of her daughters shining example to society, no doubt??



...and just for the record, I'm not condemning the parents, cos I know from 1st hand experience that youngsters can go off the rails irrelevant of what background they've come from, but I also agree that social services often avoid getting involved until they're almost forced into a corner.

Thankfully my own 18y.o. step-daughter eventually managed to sort herself out with a lot of help and support, so I've seen both extremes of the situation... but I'm glad to say she's recently got some amazing references from her work experience as well as the Prince of Wales Trust programme that she's completed.

Sorry for rambling, and hijacking the thread a little, but she really hit rock bottom a few years ago... and now I'm so proud that she's achieved so much

Originally Posted by Cloggsy

IMHO, This is this sort of poor parenting skills which is giving us all the problems we are having in society today as a whole...

Yob culture, lack of respect for anything/anyone, juvenile car crime, theft... etc etc

All of these things were quite prevelent in Hull when I was growing up, but did I decide to 'go down that path'

No

Why

Because I know I'd have gotten my @rse well & truly kicked if I did...

These days kids seem to be getting patted on the back by certain parents for doing stupid things, not chastised... Let alone being 'smacked' (can I say that work or will I get dragged off to court for uttering such filth )

The only people who can do something about this kind of behaviour is society are the people who live in it - US!

Totally agree with you on that.

[northwind]

On the bright side, at least it's not a teenage pregnancy

(stolen from another list)