Favourite Gun

[rictus01]

Originally Posted by Tomcat

The common sense side of me agrees with what you are saying, and that is why I don't judge anyone who enjoys shooting, or the gun. BUT, I still can't get passed the fear, which is disappointing because I like to think that I am broadminded enough to understand other peoples hobbies, even if they don't interest me. Maybe I was shot in a previous life !

I might suggest you give it a go, just once mind, but perhaps it'll allow you to see it a different way and address your concerns ?

When I first left the Army my brothers were into clay shooting and invited me along, tried it once, but just showed the limited way they saw it, so never went again, I found I liked the skill of target shooting more that just firing the things.

Or of course it could be I'm just weird and yours is a normal view

Cheers Mark

Easy -the custard guns in bugsy malone film.

husky

Originally Posted by Luckypants

A gun is a tool to kill and hurt - period.

I'd argue that munitions were developed more for defensive reasons than offensive ones. The defence of the nation, rather than the conquering of another one. Certainly they have been used for both. Sort of like the A-bomb, it was wanted to end the way (or so we're led to believe), but now, that technology is used for intimidation.

I mean, if I wre living somewhere that it was legal, I would probably have a gun (hidden away from the kids) somewhere for defense.

Scumbag breaks into my house & he'd soon find he had no knee caps. That's assuming I could shoot to save my life (pardon the pun).

[rictus01]

Originally Posted by Luckypants

Rictus I get that argument, but the big difference with guns is they are designed to maim and kill. That is thier purpose. A hammer is a useful tool that can be MISUSED to hurt or kill someone. A bike is a tool to transport you around, misused it can you or others. A gun is a tool to kill and hurt - period.

I'm not saying no one should have them, but you should have a reason. Having one cos you like guns seems like a good reason for not being allowed one.

OK, using that basic arguement, a parachute, generally used far more for recreation than saving life(it's original purpose), so is jumping from a perfectly good plane with one MISUSED ?

You could also make the point target shooting is a sport and so they aren't misused at all in that context, generalizing the weapons issue opens it up to all sorts of interpritation, but I think it's the milartry spec weapons that taint peoples perseption I'll admit I did enjoy air rifle & .22 target shooting at one point, which was equally taxing for acuracy.

Complicated issue, you'll never get everyone to agree, but like most things a degree of tollerance is called for.

Cheers Mark.

Originally Posted by keithd

paraphrasing aside, that statement REALLY annoys me.

Originally Posted by Luckypants

Ditto KeithD - no guns=people cannot use them to kill other people.

Whooo lookee 2 fishes in the basket...



We might have the highest level of teenage pregnancy and drug taking in the EU, but we kill less people with guns than most.

http://www.nationmaster.com/red/grap...capita&b_map=1

#1 South Africa: 0.719782 per 1,000 people
#2 Colombia: 0.509801 per 1,000 people
#3 Thailand: 0.312093 per 1,000 people
#4 Zimbabwe: 0.0491736 per 1,000 people
#5 Mexico: 0.0337938 per 1,000 people
#6 Belarus: 0.0321359 per 1,000 people
#7 Costa Rica: 0.0313745 per 1,000 people
#8 United States: 0.0279271 per 1,000 people
#9 Uruguay: 0.0245902 per 1,000 people
#10 Lithuania: 0.0230748 per 1,000 people
#11 Slovakia: 0.021543 per 1,000 people
#12 Czech Republic: 0.0207988 per 1,000 people
#13 Estonia: 0.0157539 per 1,000 people
#14 Latvia: 0.0131004 per 1,000 people
#15 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0127139 per 1,000 people
#16 Bulgaria: 0.00845638 per 1,000 people
#17 Portugal: 0.00795003 per 1,000 people
#18 Slovenia: 0.00596718 per 1,000 people
#19 Switzerland: 0.00534117 per 1,000 people
#20 Canada: 0.00502972 per 1,000 people
#21 Germany: 0.00465844 per 1,000 people
#22 Moldova: 0.00448934 per 1,000 people
#23 Hungary: 0.00439692 per 1,000 people
#24 Poland: 0.0043052 per 1,000 people
#25 Ukraine: 0.00368109 per 1,000 people
#26 Ireland: 0.00298805 per 1,000 people
#27 Australia: 0.00293678 per 1,000 people
#28 Denmark: 0.00257732 per 1,000 people
#29 Spain: 0.0024045 per 1,000 people
#30 Azerbaijan: 0.00227503 per 1,000 people
#31 New Zealand: 0.00173482 per 1,000 people
#32 United Kingdom: 0.00102579 per 1,000 people
Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

Razor, I'm sure I've seen that scene in a film. Now if only I could remember which one.

Originally Posted by Baph

Razor, I'm sure I've seen that scene in a film. Now if only I could remember which one.

I think it's a from Jackie Brown. It's a gun advert, which, if I recall correctly, was made specifically for the film.

i stand to be corrected but i believe it also appears in Bowling for Columbine.

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

I think it's a from Jackie Brown. It's a gun advert, which, if I recall correctly, was made specifically for the film.

Ahhhhhhh! That's the one. Cheers.