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Blame MCN, that's one of the main reasons I can't stand the rag or it's semi-illiterate and lazy hacks. Thing is, there are still loads of 1970s and 80s RD250s and 250LCs around that survived those days, so they couldn't have been that dangerous. |
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I do agree with the limit but also believe car drivers should have restriction too. The main thing with accidents on the road aren't always caused by SPEED. Human Error is the biggest cause of accidents. Go to any bike scrap yard and i bet there are 10 Mo-peds to every motorcycle!!!
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no.....there are some 30-40 year olds that pass with the same mentality as a 17 but can and do go and buy an r1 ect so the system is floored
Having said that i sat my 33bhp right thro and its no different, 125cc to 33bhp still felt like the millenium falcon and when i derestricted it i was used to it by the end of that day i passed back, in may 2007 and the both tests where the same just i was on a 125 not a 500 Last edited by Wideboy; 28-04-10 at 07:58 AM. |
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I think a limit for younger riders is wise. I did a few months commuting everywhere (2000 miles) on a 125, then DAS in Sep 09. I'm 28 now and I know the younger me would have dropped bikes a few times. That's why I waited!
I think the current rules on enforcement and proof are stupid - bikes should be restricted by a authorised centre, with a cert and some form of making on the bike. Ideally they would be ECU restricted only, with a sealed, marked ECU but this means that only modern bikes would be suitable. If you want to see some alternative restriction ideas, take a look at what the Kiwis do - Min Age 15: Learner Licence (CBT eqiv, plus theory) - The riders motorbike engine may not be lager than 250cc - The open road speed limit is 70km/h, even when the stated speed limit is 100km/h - The rider may not rider between 10pm and 5am - A yellow L plate must be displayed on the rear of the motorbike at all times - The licence must be with the rider at all times - No passengers are allowed Restricted Licence (Pass test, must have learner licence for 6 months): - The riders motorbike engine may not be lager than 250cc - The rider may not rider between 10pm and 5am - No passengers are allowed And the full licence comes when the restricted licence has been held for: For riders under 25: 18 months (12 months with the completion of an approved course) For riders 25 and over: 6 months (3 months with the completion of an approved course) Bear in mind that the above does allow for a full licence by age 17, In a country with no need to take out insurance, so not perfect by any means. Last edited by markc123; 28-04-10 at 08:10 AM. |
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This whole debate is interesting in the different replies,especially where age is a concern.
My answer to the problem would be progressive testing. Getting insurance,and the insurance companies would still be a big factor for a 17-18 year old on a high performance bike. Yes you can have the full monty but only on Fully Comp and that will be £10,000 please. Also instead of having the full points system[Driving penalty] it could be reduced for bikes over the current limit and two years riding experience for all ages so that apart from silly misdemeanours it is more or less one strike and your out Last edited by Dicky Ticker; 28-04-10 at 08:41 AM. |
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no its a waste of time.
you can take out a restrictor easily, no register of bikes or any way to really prove its been done, no legal paperwork to say its been done either. you can die at 50 MPH as well as 150 MPH no need to have it at all, esp when a learner can pass a car test and if funds allow go buy a bugatti veyron. |
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I don't see why just cause someone is older makes them any better, they are the ones who can afford an R1 ect, ride only when its sunny ect, they do seem to crash alot. I wonder why? This country is geared up to taking the **** out of young people, lets not not make it any harder. |
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Ford Fiesta 1.25 Rover 414 Honda Accord 2.0 Honda Civic 1.5 Landr Rover Discovery 2.5 Diesel boat I couldn't afford the insurance on a TT right now even with 8 years no claims (fair play son) I do agree with mostly, but it is eaier to come unstuck on a bike than in a car and you're more likley to walk away when you've "misjudged that corner" in a car than on a bike. I do agree with a restriction of some sort but how to make it fair is another thing 31, did the DAS years ago and can deffo see how coming up through the classes would help with your riding oppsed to just jumping on a bike that can shift
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All these objections,I have an multiple vehicle types license and only got it by passing tests.
As has been suggested,if you are that good what is the problem with taking a more advanced test,your good you pass,your crap you fail.It only becomes an issue when you are crap. Ageism is another subject and somewhere lines have got to be set, but further testing should apply to all who want to progress. |
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