Racist slurs

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Abuse is only abuse when she is offended by it though... if it was just somebody using "racial slurs" in good natured and completely normal pi$$taking then you wouldnt care.

Hence my arguement, if the target of such comments is not offended, then its obviously not abuse, so keep your nose out. Do gooders.

Well obviously if the comments are made in joke then I personally wouldn't flare up or anything daft. But those kind of situations are obvious.

[yorkie_chris]

And the person being alright with something is what seperates abuse from banter.

[Biker Biggles]

That is acommon sense view which is so frowned upon by the PC authoritarians.They need total control of what is right and wrong and I for one wont concede that to them.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by missyorkie_chris

well to 'em all. end of.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

That is acommon sense view which is so frowned upon by the PC authoritarians.They need total control of what is right and wrong and I for one wont concede that to them.

F### em is my veiw on it.

I'm not racist, but I don't like the way that minorites get preferential treatment for playing the race card, or the gay card, or the I'm a discriminated against celebrity get me out of here card. Which isn't helped by people getting offended about matters which are n0b all to do with them.

[northwind]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

But many times in this context a statement of fact is considered a racist comment.

So that cricketer actually was a monkey? Is that allowed? I suppose it's probably not against the letter of the rules, but it seems a bit against the spirit. "Right spin, Clyde"

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I'm not racist, but I don't like the way that minorites get preferential treatment for playing the race card, or the gay card, or the I'm a discriminated against celebrity get me out of here card. Which isn't helped by people getting offended about matters which are n0b all to do with them.

my thoughts exactly,this is what i was trying to say on my last post on this thread.obviously to some people this came out wrong or has been totally misinterpretated.As far as this subject goes i have nothing more to say (as i,d only end up being accused of being a racist)......eh lozzo

[northwind]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I'm not racist, but I don't like the way that minorites get preferential treatment for playing the race card, or the gay card, or the I'm a discriminated against celebrity get me out of here card.

They probably don't like it much when they get a different sort of special treatment. Get rid of one and you can get rid of the other.

[northwind]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Hence my arguement, if the target of such comments is not offended, then its obviously not abuse,

That's obvious nonsense though... I'm having trouble even explaining why, because it's so fundamental. Abuse is what it is, if you say something with the intent of causing harm then whether it hits the mark or not, it's still abuse. It's like saying something wasn't dangerous driving because the other guy got out of the way.

BTW, you have made a tactical error in saying "I'm not a racist", that's only one step away from saying "I've got lots of black friends!" (this here is one of those friendly abuse things btw, I know fine well you're not)

[Biker Biggles]

Northy is right to say that if you say something that is intended to be abusive then it is abusive however it is taken,but the issue often centres around the interpretation of stuff said inadvertantly or in jest which is not intended to be abusive,but is held to be so by the recipient or someone else who hears it.
As for the old "some of my best friends are -----"cliche,I think there is a real issue here too.Real racists of the BNP KKK nutcase variety will not have black friends abd will hate black people and not mix with them.Commonsense tells us these people are dangerous nutters and need to be dealt with,but we make the mistake of lumping ordinary folk who may not be very PC in with the nutters.At an individual or neighbourhood level most people get on very well with others irrespective of race.The same normally applies at work,but the interferers cant just let us be.They have to keep looking for racism and redefining normal human interaction as such because they are authoritarian zealots.Just like mediaeval witch hunt mentality.

Arf, racism.
Why should I be allowed to call a white guy a monkey and not a black guy? Why is it okay to be called a *******, but add black to the mix and suddenly it's racism. What about white b***ard?

It's a total double standard, but then it's not really "racism" it's active protection of previously downtrodden minority groups for as long as possible............. anyway, aren't we the human race?