New rule at Sainsbury's

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Originally Posted by sinbad

Tesco are the bestest, I don't feel like a criminal when I go there to buy petrol. Noone says "get off your bike and remove your lid", I can pull up, fill up, pay up, fire up and away up the road, all without getting off the bike
Got to love pay@pump.

I avoid a local Morrisons because they asked me to get off the bike to fill it, and to remove my helmet.

Yeah pay at pump rules. I use that at Morrisons and ASDA.

Originally Posted by simesb

I'll find out soon enough - off to Sainsburys to fill up in a bit.

Today I have been asked neither to get off the bike, nor take my lid off when paying. Diktat not reached Regents Road in Manchester yet

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

Lukemillar: "I've never understood why people get so upset about having to take their helmets off spouting civil rights infruingements and other carp. It's polite!"

...but the people asking you to remove your lid never are: They're invariably middle-aged women who adopt a patronising tone of a mother scolding a wayward child. Which makes you all the more inclined to keep it on. I'll remove my lid at night going into an otherwise empty petrol station as a courtesy to the attendant, particularly if it's a female on her own. In the middle of the day at a busy services with about 20 other people queuing up to pay? They can go forth and multiply.

Unless you're prepared to lock the door upon seeing a biker approaching in a lid and treat it as a robbery until proven otherwise (and this is consistently enforced), the whole argument for removing the lid on the grounds of robbery prevention is null. Once someone has queued up and got their money/card out, challenging them will just alienate them. That leaves the argument about removing the lid before fuelling: If you won't turn on the pumps, I'll ride elsewhere. If I'm out of fuel, I'll put £2 in and go to the next garage. If the fuel's in my tank, I'll attempt to pay and it's not my fault if you won't take my money.

It is not a legal requirement to remove your lid and until it is, when I do so will be entirely at my discretion.

Jeez - Lead by example then! What is wrong with you lot? Seems like you all like living in a country where people enjoy get arsey at each other over petty things like having to remove a helmet or having to get off your bike to fill up because it is your 'right' to not have to do so. The law, legal requirements, managers etc. doesn't matter - you should learn to live and let live.

Right, I'm off to hug a tree and weave some yoghurt.

Originally Posted by lukemillar

Jeez - Lead by example then! What is wrong with you lot? Seems like you all like living in a country where people enjoy get arsey at each other over petty things like having to remove a helmet or having to get off your bike to fill up because it is your 'right' to not have to do so. The law, legal requirements, managers etc. doesn't matter - you should learn to live and let live.

Right, I'm off to hug a tree and weave some yoghurt.

Whilst you are hugging your tree, reflect upon the fact that you have completely missed the point. It's not the right to wear a helmet in bed, but the intrusion in our lives of petty rules being enforced by jobsworths.

I always sit on my bike whilst filling then pedal over to the side, put on a stand to go in and pay up. If I go in I'd remove my helmet, if I use the ticket machine I don't.

Originally Posted by simesb

Whilst you are hugging your tree, reflect upon the fact that you have completely missed the point. It's not the right to wear a helmet in bed, but the intrusion in our lives of petty rules being enforced by jobsworths.

It's not hard to miss the point when it was a pretty small and pathetic one to start with.

Originally Posted by ScottishRawker

well they can come out and hold it upright whilst i fill it to the brim!!

That's what I was going to say. I haven't got a centre stand on the Triumph.
I've always sat on it to fill up.

T*ssers.

For the people who think you should remove your helmet. What do you think of this:
A colleague was asked (as is typical, rather rudely) to remove his helmet when going into Tescos earlier this week. Seems okay until you consider:
1) It is a flip face helmet and he had it clipped in the "up" position, so it only covered his hair and ears.
2) We work in a predominantly Muslim area and there were well over a dozen women in Burkhas in the store at the same time.
3) There were also well over a dozen men wearing baseball caps which jutted out further forward at the top of their heads, more effectively concealing their faces from CCTV cameras than his lid was.

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

For the people who think you should remove your helmet. What do you think of this:
A colleague was asked (as is typical, rather rudely) to remove his helmet when going into Tescos earlier this week. Seems okay until you consider:
1) It is a flip face helmet and he had it clipped in the "up" position, so it only covered his hair and ears.
2) We work in a predominantly Muslim area and there were well over a dozen women in Burkhas in the store at the same time.
3) There were also well over a dozen men wearing baseball caps which jutted out further forward at the top of their heads, more effectively concealing their faces from CCTV cameras than his lid was.

I would have said to the staff: 'well if you refuse to serve me, then refuse sale to everyone else in this store with their faces covered'

There have been one or two comments in this thread about shoplifters and theives not concealing their faces. This is completely true. I work in a supermarket, and not one shoplifter has come in with a concealed face. Even when the store was robbed, the crims didnt cover their faces despite being on full CCTV.

If a flip lid is clipped in the "up" position is it not effectively acting like a baseball cap?