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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the 33bhp limit for new riders
Yes 76 52.78%
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Old 28-04-10, 07:10 PM   #141
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33bhp is nowhere near as good acceleration as the full power SV...people on here often like to claim it's near the same, but it's not.

I'm not sure if the restriction actually makes much difference to insurance. My ins company didn't even ask for any evidence or anything regarding restriction.
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Old 28-04-10, 07:43 PM   #142
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33bhp is nowhere near as good acceleration as the full power SV...people on here often like to claim it's near the same, but it's not.

I'm not sure if the restriction actually makes much difference to insurance. My ins company didn't even ask for any evidence or anything regarding restriction.
I rode my SV unrestricted to where it was getting it's restriction. I felt no different whatsoever

And that's because the insurance company expects your bike to be restricted, they shouldn't have to ask. They'll look at your age, when you got your license, and determine if you should be restricted (I mentioned that mine was restricted when I was taking insurance, and they said just that), and if your not, you're breaking the law, and that's viability of any claims of their back.
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Old 28-04-10, 07:56 PM   #143
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allan i had the same in my speed awareness training, infact it was mainly old truckers getting caught at night on a road they know with fixed cameras on!

as for the speed of the sv from 33 to full power i find the acceleration only changes when i twist the throttle all the way open its less hesitant now.
next as for touring on a 33bhp sv we were 2up and loaded to feel like 6up with rear suspension preloaded to the max we found them great still enough power to ride the roads and even able to get up to a good 80 on the private runways but then again in my case i weight 10 stone and the mrs weighted about 7 stone but we did take the kitchen sink with us to make the weight up.

as for the restriction i think the rules are fine as they are, my mate passed his DAS and got himself a new gsxr600 and found said in the cold he had moments were he misjudged corners and was happy to stay on but would of done that at any power tbh and he also found the moments which scared him when he was going to fast made him think, if i had 33bhp that wouldnt of been able to happen but 22 is no more responsible than 21 really.
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Old 28-04-10, 08:28 PM   #144
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Like all laws, it's compromise between mildly infringing the liberties of the majority to protect the vulnerable minority, which is essential.
How about this country stops pandering to the minority and starts actually taking notice of the majority for once. It's exactly this "protect the vulnerable minority" attitude that has made the country the way it is, full of wet behind the ears idiots who can't tie their own shoelaces at 21 years old because the government has got someone to do it for them. Political correctness is the worst thing that has ever been forced on the people of Britain.

These laws don't mildly infringe, they are a bloody nuisance to all the 'normal' people, and we have to suffer because a handful of potential Darwin Award nominees can't be trusted. As I have said before - if these people go and kill themselves then fair play, it's simply less contamination in the gene pool.
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Old 28-04-10, 08:36 PM   #145
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I disagree with it. I see no real benefit of it...if someone is going to be a lunatic and throw themselves into the scenery, they will do it at whatever speed they can get to.

...most people who agree with it probably have never actually been restricted to 33bhp.
Most of those who disagree with it are more than likely against the way we are being slowly and insiduously ground into submission by successive governments. As you can see from the names on that list the majority are of an age where we can remember a much more relaxed and free society where we didn't have the restrictions that younger people take for granted and assume were always there. I'll bet half the people who agree with the restriction weren't even born when you could ride a 100mph 33bhp 250cc bike on L plates.

In my case it's not all to do with the 33bhp limit being a farce, it's about there being a 33bhp limit at all, and the infringement on my and other's civil liberties. It's another thing about Briton's lives that is being controlled from Westminster.
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Old 28-04-10, 08:51 PM   #146
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I'm 26, passed my DAS 6 days after my 25 birthday in March last year, having done nothing more than spend a summer riding pillion and doing my CBT in the February.

I got my SV650 straight away.

On one hand I think the restriction is a good idea, and if I hadn't already bought my bike I may have gone for a restricted one, but on the other hand that would have been a whole other "thing" to get over, after the restriction period. I'd constantly have been wondering if I could "handle the extra power"

I know some 40yo idiots who throw bikes of all sizes down roads, but i know so many more 17-21 year olds who do it more often... and in some respects I think the restirction is a good idea for them, but then you can argue that they'd just welly it down the road once the restriction is lifted...

swings and roundabouts really.
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Old 29-04-10, 12:05 AM   #147
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i agree with it but i dont agree with the direct acess. just be cause some one is older doesnt mean they are any more skilled or responsable etc than me when i was 17 on a restricted sv so should not be aloud a full power.

also i think two years is too long and maybe some kind of millage scheme could be used. i do a fair amount of miles so 33bhp soon became abore well before my first year specially two up. maybe your restriction could be removed after two years or sooner if you reach a certain amound of miles, (obvi this is hard to police but then so i the whole 33bhp thing any way)

Im just glad to have finished it, but appriciate what it has done with my respect for the power i now have.
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Old 29-04-10, 12:15 AM   #148
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i think i can actually go faster in 5th than 6th ahhaha,
Same, theres a huge difference between full power and 33bhp. you have to change earlier when restricted as it wont pull further up. Added to that 6th gear is slower than 5th. So you loose 1 gears worth of speed too lol.
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Old 29-04-10, 12:28 AM   #149
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I don't agree at all I did my test a few weeks after my 17th birthday and 33bhp felt fast for what? a week? maybe 2 its a daft number pulled out of thin air and I don't think its right that just because your 21 you can go out do your test and buy a 160bhp bike you have no more experience than the 17 year old that's restricted so why should you get access to anything bigger? your no safer a rider. Its a stupid law that's practically impossible to police and any one that was that determined that they wanted more power and would do anything for it isn't going to leave the bike restricted are they? If there that determined to restrict new riders then it should be mileage based and a higer level of power i.e. 50bhp and that should be for every one no matter what age.
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Old 29-04-10, 08:01 AM   #150
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i agree with it but i dont agree with the direct acess. just be cause some one is older doesnt mean they are any more skilled or responsable etc than me when i was 17 on a restricted sv so should not be aloud a full power.

also i think two years is too long and maybe some kind of millage scheme could be used. i do a fair amount of miles so 33bhp soon became abore well before my first year specially two up. maybe your restriction could be removed after two years or sooner if you reach a certain amound of miles, (obvi this is hard to police but then so i the whole 33bhp thing any way)

Im just glad to have finished it, but appriciate what it has done with my respect for the power i now have.
When a did may DAS last year (one of the early people through the swerve test), the training spent around two hours getting used to what 50bhp+ does on closed roads.
The DAS works when its done properly on the road test. My road test spent 10 minutes on the a1 at rush hour and some fast road riding. I was ripped to shreds for a second too late indicator cancel.
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