Child Benefit Cuts

If the unwashed had jobs, they wouldn't have time to breed.

Some of those who know me Know that my politics are somewhere left of lenin and as such may not be supprised that i think that tax rates are too low in general, if child care was properly funded from this incresed tax take then the low paid would take home more of their cash and working would pay off more than being on benifits ( as would raising the bottom 0 rated tax thresholds but thats for another day) this would reduce the slackers part of benifits bill on its own in a positive feedback loop

But i do come from generally conservative family,with a small c ( which in S-wales makes you have 3 heads )
that belives that if you work hard to beter yourself then the rewards should follow,

In which case can someone please explain to me how its fair that i will now not be able to look at a new job or a promotion to move my carrer on as if i get £300 a yr more i will lose £2500 per annum on top of the £1000 i will lose next year in tax credits.

What this does is say to people in middle /senior roles there is no point you working harder cos we'll **** you over as we need a ceiling to keep most people under


I accept the retoric that says we all have to share the burden and higher earners can afford it but the anomoly in this system is Bigger than a blairs ego ( ie the 80,000 2 earners / 45,000 single earners)

( my belief is that they have got their figures wrong by basing them on the south east where most people are in 2 working people households therefore the anomoly is not so great once one of you gets over the £45,000 threshold , this is not so much the case in other parts of the country where people who fill that catogory also tend to be a bit old fasioned and like to have the primary carer at home till the kids are at least school age )

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Originally Posted by blue curvy jester

points well made...

I can't disagree with a single part of that, and I hadn't considered the people just below the threshold - good point.

I'd be happy to pay more tax..no really. If it takes less well-off people out of tax altogether I'd support that.

I've worked hard for everything I've got but I didn't do it in a bubble. Society has presented opportunities and I've chosen to take them so I "owe" for that. I don't feel I deserve even more back in return and I'll be happy if I never need to claim a single benefit.

BUT, the benefits system is so complex that, unless you live or work in it, you don't have a chance of understanding it. This lack of understanding gets filled with the Daily Mail type stories and then the system risks losing the support of the people.

I don't think anyone is getting rich on benefits but if the system was clearer we would maybe all be able to see that.