Fortress Britain

Originally Posted by Bear

Okay, I see what you're saying here in the first bit, but the racist claptrap at the end undermines your argument. Islam is not a fundamentalist religion. It is a religion that has fundamentalists in it, in the same way as Christianity or any of the other religions. In my opinion the best way to stop terrorism is not to demonise and therefore radicalise a whole generation of one of the largest religions on the planet, but to try to work with them to try to come to some form of compromise.

Not really wanting to go down this road, but would like to make the point that if I came to your house and I disliked your wallpaper, I could still respect you as a person but have none for your taste. Why then must I respect a belief? I still respect the individual.

I think we can all agree that no matter how much of this technology we employ to supposedly protect ourselves, you will not stop this terroism as you cant kill an Idea or fundamental belief. The main reason for all this is western interference in middle eastern affairs and not forgetting our backing of Israel. until we address this issue we will not solve the problem.

It is a real irony that the supposed free west is protecting the free west by taking away our freedom !

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

We're being told to sacrifice our freedom and even at our financial expense? As long as we accept fundamentalists beliefs we will have terrorism, end of.

Isn't that an extremist view?

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

It's the extremeists that are doing this. Britain has been more than accomodating towards their beliefs.

Islam is a fundamentalist religion entirely. You can not be of Muslim belief and live a non-muslim lifestlye, try that in the Middle East and you won't live another day.

Sweeping generalisation! There are extremists in Christianity as well but I hear no mention about them.

Once again a thread seems to descend to Muslim Bashing. Its not acceptable.

Islam is not the problem. Its a few people within the religion who are the problem. Just like its a few people in any organisation that can be a problem.

Extra security checks are a fact of life now. We just have to deal with it. How many years have we had the steel curtain in London for? Anyone complaining about it? Not any more, we got used to it just as we'll get used to the hightened security.

Originally Posted by Jester666

Sweeping generalisation! There are extremists in Christianity as well but I hear no mention about them.

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thats because they dont go blowing people up

To be a fundamentalist you have to believe in the fundamentals of a religion, ie believeing the word of the Koran and acting on it. Not only do Muslims fundamentally believe the Koran, but Shariah law enforces it. I don't see how that can not be a fundamentalist religion.

Hovis quote: thats because they dont go blowing people up


Oklahoma? George 'Dubbya' Bush?

Do all Christians believe and act on what is in the Bible?

Originally Posted by Jester666

Hovis quote: thats because they dont go blowing people up


Oklahoma? George 'Dubbya' Bush?

hehe. But God spoke to him and told him it was the right thing to do!
Blair had the same thing....

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

hehe. But God spoke to him and told him it was the right thing to do!
Blair had the same thing....

Both of 'em are loonies!!

Originally Posted by Jester666

Do all Christians believe and act on what is in the Bible?

Very good question. No they don't, but most Christians don't understand what their religion means. Islam is much much stricter in that matter and the Koran is deemed as Gods word not to be questioned.