Proper signed on!

[glade]

Don't want to sound like an ****.... but come on man! You appear to have a good standard of English and if you're able bodied you should be out there working! I agree with fizzy fish - its a safetynet for those who are really screwed, not an intermediary handout for those choosing a career.

Surely you could get work as a Teaching assistant or something. You could even get a part time job in McDonalds/asda with hours to fit around the work experience you have already arranged.

I personally have never had problems finding part time work, and have never belived that **** jobs like bog scrubbing are beneath me - i'd rather scrub out a builder's ****ter than live on handouts.

At school i worked for McD's, at uni i had an awesome job at a car auction driving the motors around and some bar work. Between uni and my proper career (Manufacturing Engineer) i did breakdown call centre (suprisingly rewarding), warehouse painting, warehouse stock counts, scrubbing bogs for a portakabin rental place. Theres loads of temporary jobs out there and its not all drivel either.

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

we are here to find you a job, not aid your career search/decisions"

. "That's right, if you want to claim JSA, you have to be available for work" ... I mean what can you say!!

.. she said "this is Job Seekers, not career seekers ... we are here to make you employed" ...

She sounds like a right battleaxe! But she seems more bothered about you getting out of her hair as opposed to Pauline

I don't like the idea of them sorting out anything after a few weeks of trying for yourself, what would be the point if you hated it, quit and just had to go back to them again!

[glade]

though i do see what you are doing... but my pride dictates that i'd find something to tie me over until the proper job came up rather than signing on.

If you don't mind me asking, why are you out of work... redundancy?

portsmouth football club are taking on litter pickers?

Originally Posted by glade

Don't want to sound like an ****.... but come on man! You appear to have a good standard of English and if you're able bodied you should be out there working! I agree with fizzy fish - its a safetynet for those who are really screwed, not an intermediary handout for those choosing a career.

Surely you could get work as a Teaching assistant or something. You could even get a part time job in McDonalds/asda with hours to fit around the work experience you have already arranged.

I personally have never had problems finding part time work, and have never belived that **** jobs like bog scrubbing are beneath me - i'd rather scrub out a builder's ****ter than live on handouts.

At school i worked for McD's, at uni i had an awesome job at a car auction driving the motors around and some bar work. Between uni and my proper career (Manufacturing Engineer) i did breakdown call centre (suprisingly rewarding), warehouse painting, warehouse stock counts, scrubbing bogs for a portakabin rental place. Theres loads of temporary jobs out there and its not all drivel either.

Dude, ?60/week isn't going to touch the sides, as I said, I pay half of that in council tax a week alone!! I can't live off it!! But it is nice to get a little something to ease the burden!!

So where is the rest of the cash coming from?!!? ... well feck me, I have worked hard and been wise enough to save enough 'rainy day' money to see me by for a while without the need for a part time/stand-in job .. I have a choice, eat into that or get a temp job ... at the mo I am choosing to eat into it ... at the end of the day I have been unemployed for the whole of 2.5 days now, things aren't THAT desperate (yet )!!

I've had jobs since I was 12? and had my first paper round, had weekend jobs though my education too .. I have never been GIVEN anything in my life ... my parents didn't even give me pocket money - to teach me the value of money and working for it!! ....

I don't need lectures on the value of money or having to work for it thanks!!

[Gazza77]

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

So tell me, I am only taking what I am entitled to (its contribution based remember) .. why is that so wrong?!!?

This is the problem with the system. Yes, you are entitled to it. However, so are other people claiming the same benefit, who have no intention of getting a job. Just because you are entitled to it, doesn't mean that most people will agree that you should be.

Originally Posted by Gazza77

This is the problem with the system. Yes, you are entitled to it. However, so are other people claiming the same benefit, who have no intention of getting a job. Just because you are entitled to it, doesn't mean that most people will agree that you should be.

I'd argue that as I paid in, I should have more right to it than someone that has never worked a day in their life and don't intend to, don't you?!?

[Gazza77]

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

I'd argue that as I paid in, I should have <B>more </B>right to it than someone that has never worked a day in their life and don't intend to, don't you?!? <IMG class=inlineimg title=Wink alt="" src="images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" border=0 smilieid="4">

I agree, you have more right. I'd also claim the same in your position. That doesn't mean that you (or I or anyone else in theory) should be able to claim when paid employment is available that we would be capable of doing, just that we can.

I don't think someone such as blue should be forced into a position where he has to accept rubbish work. Even putting asside the contribution side, both blue and the government will be better off if he gets a better paid job in a month than a rubbish one tomorrow.

Of course, the kind of people turning up to the jobcentre, the number who fit into that catagory will be few and far between...

Originally Posted by Gazza77

I agree, you have more right. I'd also claim the same in your position. That doesn't mean that you (or I or anyone else in theory) should be able to claim when paid employment is available that we would be capable of doing, just that we can.

I totally agree and it is what has made me so furious from the other side for so long!!

The whole benefits system piddles me off ... but what do you 'do'?!?!