Dang - Something in tyre, advice?

[yorkie_chris]

I've got a pair of tyres taking up room in the garage, they're good tyres, but nearly done.

I refuse to get rid of them, because the same day I do, I'll get a nail in mine.

[ethariel]

Poped into FWR with 3 'nails' in my tyre a while back, was convinced the back end was squirming about for 5 miles before getting there after being told bout them in the tyre.

20mins and i'm left looking at 3 little bits of metal about 2 to 3mm long, ryre tested and no leaks (nice chaps did'nt even charge me!) and me feeling like a twonk!

tho back on track - it may be a nail but if its centreish then its 99% pluggable, 10 to 20 quid (unless you live in northern Scotland where the w**kers refuse to plug em but happily offer u new tyres (thats Inverness for ya!)

[yorkie_chris]

Ebay

Price of a new tyre fitted ... or the price of a partworn, a paddockstand, some levers, and carb cleaner.

Originally Posted by sinbad

No, I did that test immediately, I'm pretty much certain the tyre isn't deflating at all. That's why I can't be certain how long it's been in.

I'm going to take it somewhere in the morning. I'm happy enough to ride on it. Worst case scenario is a new rear so it's not the end of the world, just annoying that my first puncture comes shortly after fitting my first new set of tyres.

Why don't you try pulling it out

If it starts to leak then push it back in again ... but you might have got lucky and it doesn't go all the way through.

Unless you can take the wheel off and get it to the fitter, then dont pull it out. When you next need tyres buy before you hit the minimum legal, keep the old just for such occasions, it seems to be part of "Murphys Law" that punctures occur most in new tyres.

Originally Posted by Mogs

Unless you can take the wheel off and get it to the fitter, then dont pull it out. When you next need tyres buy before you hit the minimum legal, keep the old just for such occasions, it seems to be part of "Murphys Law" that punctures occur most in new tyres.

He can tug it out in the tyre place carpark

Get some sticky string type puncture repair stuff, go to a garage with a working fuel line (or have a foot pump standing by) and pull it out. You may find that it's too short to worry about. Had what looked like 3 nails in the rear a few weeks ago, turned out they were at most 4mm long! That way you at least have a proper temporary repair in there to get you to a tyre shop!

As part of daily routine, checking the tyres should be one of the things you do. I give my tyres a check over each night before it goes in the garage. Anything sticking in the tyres gets pulled out. If it leaks it leaks. I plug it.

What you have to realise is you can't see what damage has been done to the tyre. You can't see how long that nail / foreign object is. You have no idea if it's going to cause further damage to the inside of the tyre. It's all very well thinking you'll leave it in as it's not leaking. Your running the gauntlet for as long as you leave it. Possibly the tyre carcass could be damaged, possibly the object that you have decided to leave in, could cause catastrophic tyre failure.

Go and buy a puncture repair kit. There are several different types out there. Stick it under your seat. If you ever find something stuck in the tyre, get it out, temporarily fix the puncture and then go get it plugged properly. Is it really worth running the gauntlet?

Originally Posted by BigApe

As part of daily routine, checking the tyres should be one of the things you do. I give my tyres a check over each night before it goes in the garage. Anything sticking in the tyres gets pulled out. If it leaks it leaks. I plug it.

What you have to realise is you can't see what damage has been done to the tyre. You can't see how long that nail / foreign object is. You have no idea if it's going to cause further damage to the inside of the tyre. It's all very well thinking you'll leave it in as it's not leaking. Your running the gauntlet for as long as you leave it. Possibly the tyre carcass could be damaged, possibly the object that you have decided to leave in, could cause catastrophic tyre failure.

Go and buy a puncture repair kit. There are several different types out there. Stick it under your seat. If you ever find something stuck in the tyre, get it out, temporarily fix the puncture and then go get it plugged properly. Is it really worth running the gauntlet?

Talk about paranoia ... everything you say has at least some sense/merit, but if you are that risk adverse how the hell did you get into motorcycling (probably one of the most dangerous things one can do). Also, you would pull a foreign object out ... then ream a bigger hole in it with the repair tool and jam in a bit of rubber ... THEN take it to the garage or just leave it in where internal damage is unknown, surely the latter would go against everything you just said?!?! Surely if you have done a temp repair it writes the tyre off??

For what it is worth, 'plugging' a tyre DIY does not elevate the most important problems you mention ... the tyre could still be internally damaged!

If you get a puncture of this nature to my mind you only have 3 choices ...

1: Get the tyre to a proper garage to repair (they look at the inside of the tyre and have experience).
2: Just get a new tyre fitted
3: I am not allowed to put!!

Oh and sinbad, don't feel so bad, I picked this bad-boy up a couple of days ago

Yeah, I have a repair kit by Gryp or something if I recall correctly, but I see it as an emergency thing only. I'd be no happier with that plug in than leaving whatever else was keeping the air in.

Took it to my local tyre fitter today anyway who pulled it out (ooh-err), turns out it had gone in at a very shallow angle close to the surface, and wasn't even very long, 15-20mm probably. The guy says there's pretty much no way it could have gotten close to the canvas on a tyre so new at the angle it went in. So I'm fairly happy with that. I'll be extra vigilant watching the pressure just in case.

Thanks for the advice and comments anyway people