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Old 13-05-08, 12:13 PM   #11
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Would you ride at 70mph at night, switch off your lights and wear no protection at all. Then you might see my point.
Yes some people would, and they may end up getting hurt.....like people jumping off piers.

WHO CARES....let them get on with it
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Old 13-05-08, 12:20 PM   #12
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Tombstoning? LOL!

Used to be called "Jumping off something into the water" when I was a kid (and great fun it is too!)........and that was probably why it never hit the media.

Checking how deep first? FFS - how technical is that???

IMO Darwin eventually catches up with idiots whether jumping in the Water, on Bikes or whatever.
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Old 13-05-08, 12:48 PM   #13
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Yes some people would, and they may end up getting hurt.....like people jumping off piers.

WHO CARES....let them get on with it
Who cares - well I do, for one. I think it's a matter of great public concern. The MCA is right to do something about it. Whilst the State often gets it wrong, this is where they've plainly got it right.
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Old 13-05-08, 12:51 PM   #14
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Who cares - well I do, for one. I think it's a matter of great public concern. The MCA is right to do something about it. Whilst the State often gets it wrong, this is where they've plainly got it right.
I missed the bit about the MCA getting involved?
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Old 13-05-08, 12:56 PM   #15
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Whilst the State often gets it wrong, this is where they've plainly got it right.
On what basis have they got it right?

If it was a court of law and they won on the basis that the occasional person hurts themselves therefore 'its dangerous and should be banned' it would create a pathway for thousands of other persuits to be banned.
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Old 13-05-08, 12:57 PM   #16
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The MCA is forever telling people how dangerous it is. Link to relevant page on MCA website here http://tinyurl.com/4tnbkh
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Old 13-05-08, 01:02 PM   #17
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On what basis have they got it right?

If it was a court of law and they won on the basis that the occasional person hurts themselves therefore 'its dangerous and should be banned' it would create a pathway for thousands of other persuits to be banned.
The State has an interest in protecting its citizens, sometimes from themselves. It's plainly for individuals to make their own risk assessment - quite literally on the basis of 'look before you leap'. In some harbours the decision is made already, it's illegal to jump off the wall because of the danger to shipping. In other places it's not. But the MCA is obviously right in telling people that it's a stupid and dangerous practice, for the simple reason that you can never be sure of how deep the water is, or whether ther's a mangled piece of barbed wire around. And most people have no idea what depth of water is required for a safe drop from a given height.

I didn't say anything about banning it. That's plainly a very different matter.
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Old 13-05-08, 01:03 PM   #18
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The MCA is forever telling people how dangerous it is. Link to relevant page on MCA website here http://tinyurl.com/4tnbkh
Cheers - I suspect I should have known that .....but Govt stuff tends to go in one ear and out the other


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However you jump into the water from height, remember;

Always check the water depth before you jump. The main cause of death and injury is by landing in shallow depths or hitting unseen obstructions which are just below the surface of the water.

Always ensure you can get back out of the water again.

Never swim or jump into the water if you have taken alcohol or drugs. Both can seriously impair your judgment.
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Old 13-05-08, 01:06 PM   #19
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....And most people have no idea what depth of water is required for a safe drop from a given height.
Precisely my point earlier. This is sooo variable also, depending on how you enter the water, angle, what you do once in the water, etc... Most of these things are done on a whim, in a fit of bravado (often drunken bravado) and none of this is weighed up.
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Old 13-05-08, 01:15 PM   #20
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At least it removes a few more muppets from the gene pool each year ....

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