4 degree ignition advance does it work on a K6?

[yorkie_chris]

A bit of difference, I'd do gsxr swap first

So the GSXR front end is far and away better than anything you can do with the standard pogo sticks then?

I was just gonna fit heavy springs (cos i'm heavy) and some thicker oil to the front and if that was still rubbish then throw on some emulators. THe reasoning behind this was that I want it to look almost standard but go stop and handle like a dream.

the thing with the gsxr front end is it's a well balanced package of suspension and brakes at a very affordable price.
if you think that with the gsxr front end you can sell all the sv parts you don't use and people have ended up making a profit out of the swop in the past. whereas if you fit emulators etc all your doing is spending money on a fork design that is old and dated.. the gsxr forks however are still pretty decent and have a pretty much "the skys the limit" look of upgrades available
dan

[northwind]

Do you want the long or the short answer?

Short answer is "yes, but".
Long answer is: You actually can polish a poo here. If you fire something like the Traxxion AK-20 cartridge internals into stock forks, they'll work very well. You could then add GSXR calipers, and improve that too. This'll give you a fork that's better than stock GSXR. At a cost of about £800

But on the other hand... If you sell your SV parts, that makes the GSXR parts cheap- my swap would have actually made me money if I'd not blown the budget on bells and whistles. This gives you a pretty decent front end, it takes a lot to make an SV fork this good.

But... Are you the right weight? What condition are the forks? A GSXR fork, badly set up, isn't much of an upgrade. Not everyone fits nicely into the GSXR weighting, a big fat dude is going to need to spend money to rebuild the forks in order to get them working as good as they should. And maybe some of the parts will be faulty and need replacing.

I stand by the GSXR forks- mine are totally standard and they work pretty well. They could be better, but I'm happy with them. To get the same results from SV forks would cost a good bit more, even without the braking upgrade. And if I ever decide to upgrade, there's huge potential there for tuning them. It's good performance and it's good value.

Ah I get your point there then. Perhaps need to rethink the whole thing now then. I just assumed the GSXR conversion was mainly done for looks!
I'd need the whole front end off a gsxr then, does that mean I could put USD fork on?

[northwind]

It's also done for looks If you wanted a sleeper-ish look you could go with slightly older GSXR600 forks, they're also less expensive but still perform well. I'm not too up on what works in the injected SV but I think the last of the 600 RWU forks would bolt straight in. That's a really nice look I think. I've got the gold K5 GSXR forks in now and I've never liked it, they work well but they're so cheesy looking.

Oh yeah. ignition advancer... You'll get conflicting answers, you can certainly fit it but the question is all about benefit. I fitted mine ages ago in an otherwise standard engine, and it felt good, no gain up top that I could detect but it seemed stronger down low. These days... Who knows, I've got too many mods going on I plan to remove mine though and see how it goes.

Zadar did a load of comparisons and concluded IIRC that ignition retard actually helps top end, not advance.

I see, so thats cleared the advance thing up (sort of). As you say i'm a fat dude. 6ft 3 and between 16 - 17 stone depending on the time of year. So I would probably have to rebuild GSXR forks with new springs etc. Which will cost more as you say.

I'm quite taken by the idea of gold forks though, they'll look great with the blue paint, some gold pazzo levers and gold rearsets.

It's definitely turning into a bit of a marmite bike in my head now. I'll either love it or hate it!

Super charger all the way

Ok,

I've done some research and drank some (2 bottles of) wine. I've decided the suspension is first and intend to go for the following.

Racetech springs 0.90kg
20w fork oil
Nitron Sport shock (with a spring for fatties)

If that doesn't fix the handling I may look into emulators but I have a feeling it will be fine. I've decided against the GSXR gear as i'll need to buy the forks then build them to suit me bulk.

Does this sound like a good spec for a fast road SV?

[northwind]

Well, it's a perfectly good road setup. But on the other hand, it's going to fall well short of the goals you'd set earlier But it should do you pretty well. The SV forks aren't as bad as people say, just that they're very soft as standard. It's only once you start properly rebuilding them- emulators etc- that you run into value-for-money worries.

Incidentally, you should be able to find suitably stiff GSXR forks- they've got progressively stiffer over the last few years. I believe the 2006 forks have .9 springs in as standard in fact. Annoyingly, I'm going to have to have mine softened, since I'm so puny!