Time limit for issuing of NIPs

Just a cautionary note. Failure by the police to issue a NIP within 14 days is not a bar to conviction in a case where the court is satisfied that neither the name and address of the accused nor the name and address of the registered keeper could with reasonable diligence have been ascertained.

I should think she's probably got away with it, though.

I've just had a NIP for doing 67mph in a 40mph zone, at the end of a 70mph section of Dual Carriageway. (funny how the mobile speed camera is placed just there where people may not have slowed down in time!)

The date of offence was 15th June, but the NIP was dated 17th July.
I noticed only last week that my postcode on my Drivers License has a digit wrong, would this be suffucient grounds for the NIP being legitimately late?

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated, as I REALLY dont need hitting with this one!

cheers

D

Originally Posted by DarrenChay

IThe date of offence was 15th June, but the NIP was dated 17th July.
I noticed only last week that my postcode on my Drivers License has a digit wrong, would this be suffucient grounds for the NIP being legitimately late?

IANAL, but the post-office could still be expected to deliver to the wrong/missing postcode. Is there anything with the NIP to indicate they have had difficultly tracking you down, and what's the postcode on the NIP?

Edit - they write to the Registered Keeper, so the license address is irrelevant. Is the address on the V5 correct?

Originally Posted by Nostrils

I think I will be getting a ticket myself on those new M25 jobbies on the widened section by Heathrow, car in front of me was going steady at 60 and the signs changed to 40 and the burk thought breaking really sharp would be fun, I had to swerve into the left lane to avoid his stupidity by excellerating to keep ahead of a 40 tonner, I think I went through at about 66 by the time a few gestures were waved.

I've spent the last 2 years going through that section on a daily basis and never heard a peep. Generally doing 30+ over the displayed limit. You should be OK
I have heard that only the gantry near junction 13 has a live camera, and the rest don't work, although that may flash from time to time

Originally Posted by simesb

IANAL, but the post-office could still be expected to deliver to the wrong/missing postcode. Is there anything with the NIP to indicate they have had difficultly tracking you down, and what's the postcode on the NIP?

Edit - they write to the Registered Keeper, so the license address is irrelevant. Is the address on the V5 correct?

Address in the V5 is okay, as is the address on the NIP.
Now I think of it though, i didnt get my V5 until about the date of the offence, after buying the bike in mid May and it taking about 4 weeks.
I dont see how it would then take 32 days to issue the NIP though.

Originally Posted by BluePete

Get out of jail free then! She should write back and refuse to fill in the NIP, telling them it's too late.

I appreciate you are in a better position to know the ins and outs of this than me, but I was under the impression that police-operated ones had a much longer window (6 months, IIRC) than the civvy ones, in which to issue the NIP? I'm sure I've got the wrong end of the stick, but if you could clarify this I'd much appreciate it.

[Bluepete]

Ceri, nope, the law is the same for us as for the camera partnerships. NIP MUST be there within 14 days. Usually though, cops will stop the car at the time and issue a verbal NIP with a ticket, hence nothing through the post.
If a cop stops you and says it was too fast for a ticket, you will still get the verbal NIP and then the cop has 6 months to issue the summons.

Originally Posted by BluePete

Ceri, nope, the law is the same for us as for the camera partnerships. NIP MUST be there within 14 days. Usually though, cops will stop the car at the time and issue a verbal NIP with a ticket, hence nothing through the post.
If a cop stops you and says it was too fast for a ticket, you will still get the verbal NIP and then the cop has 6 months to issue the summons.

BluePete are you a policeman then?
I've checked and my V5 has a date on it of 26th June (I bought the bike on 15th May, but the keeper didnt send the info for a few weeks) which although was after the alleged offence date (15th June), was still 20 days before the NIP was issued (17th July).

What's your personal view in terms of that?
Any ideas/advice would be greatly appreciated although I know it'll come down to individual cases.

cheers

D

Originally Posted by BluePete

If a cop stops you and says it was too fast for a ticket, you will still get the verbal NIP and then the cop has 6 months to issue the summons.

Ah, that's what I was thinking of. Ta for clearing this up.

so would have been a £60 fine and 3 points?

the way i see it you charge sis £30 for your time and you're both £30 up. everyone's a winner

hth