Pour me another one Gordon

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Originally Posted by Warthog

All that is down to education. I like drinking, and have gotten quite blasted in my time, but I have never been arrested or even talked to by police, never vandalised or graffittied anything and never robbed or assaulted someone. I am in fact rather loving when drunk . So stay out of my life Gordon!

Oh yes, totally agree, I used to ocassionaly get hammered when I couldnt take the stick for not going out as often as my mates who can happily spend £100 EVERY friday/saturday night (and then wonder why they still live at home at 25/30) I enjoy the intial stages but get the most rediculous hangovers that make me feel crap for a week after.

It may well be down to education, but that really doesn't work with anything anymore, even more so with the up and coming youth of today 'innit'.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I dont think legislation though is the answer. I dont want or need Gordan Brown to tell me how much is OK for me to drink, thats my decision.

I agree, I dont know what the answer is though. I do know Gordon Brown and his posse are a liability and cant/shouldnt be allowed to come up with one.

Originally Posted by sarah

you did try and put someone in a wheeliebin though

Who was that?

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by G

I agree, I dont know what the answer is though. I do know Gordon Brown and his posse are a liability and cant/shouldnt be allowed to come up with one.

Agreed

Its different to smoking is drinking as you can't 'passive' drink.

Originally Posted by Grinch

Its different to smoking is drinking as you can't 'passive' drink.

You don't smoke and get in to fights

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

Now Gordon is wanting to bring in measures to stop us all drinking so much. All of you who cheered for the smoking ban....... how do you feel know?! One ban only opens the door to another…


But… what is it that makes us feel the need to go out and get sh*tfaced at the weekends?

Doesnt bother me...I dont drink or smoke!

I have lots of other vices though

Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy

You don't smoke and get in to fights

Nope your right I don't.

Originally Posted by sarah

I don't like having weekday hangovers.

Originally Posted by Grinch

How does a pint of petrol compare to the price of a pint of beer, it will be cheaper to get drunk soon.

Tescos own brand beer is £1.10 / litre My homebrew works out about 50ish p/litre

Originally Posted by Warthog

But seriously, what can we do? Only time people power worked was with poll tax, it would take one big law and then a movement of millions of people to change things.

Power ultimately lies with the electorate - it's just up to us to exercise that power.

However, I'm sad to say but I think most people want someone else to take responsibility for their lives. That used to be the job of the church, now it's the government instead.

There are plenty of people who moan about the nanny state, but when something bad happens they immediately complain that the government didn't do something to stop it. I fear those geuinely horrified by all this government intrusion are in the minority.

We could talk about this for ages. As a country with most CCTV cameras per person in the world (1% of world's population and 20% plus of all CCTVs) we live in the country where we are more and more restricted. What to drink, eat, smoke etc. And solution to the problem is pushing the prices of each commodity higher and higher (fags, drinks, petrol, drugs, food etc). There is no real education as majority of us is happy to "follow". I find it disturbing as we do not come up with real solutions but with short term fixes which in long term create more problems (setting precedens etc). I don't think there is a way how to stop that. There will be ID cards, constant monitoring of internet usage, speed box in each car/bike, 10 cctv cameras per head, automatic access to everyone bank account to deduct fines for speeding, drinking too much, buying too much unhealthy food etc. Yet we will be helping some God forgotten country in who knows where to establish democracy and give asylum to more criminals flooding this country from all over the world. Madness!

Well, rant over