Hydraulic clutch - advantages?

Originally Posted by Luckypants

I understood that hydraulic clutches are used where a larger mechanical advantage is needed to operate the clutch. Typically this is because the clutch springs on more powerful bikes are stronger and need more force to move the springs (to separate clutch plates).

I think you are right. Also I believe most Hydraulic clutches need less room to fit.

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

The hydraulic clutched bikes I have ridden (it must be only 2 or 3) have ALL been a bit 'snatchy' on the clutch. I might have just had an unlucky sample set, but given what I have just said, it'll hardly come as a massive surprise that I personally don't like the 'feel' (or lack thereof) on a hydraulic.

Thinking about the mechanics of it probably the reason they seem to have less 'feel' and be more snatchy is that unlike a cable operated one that has an arm and worm gear, the movement is linear on a hydraulic clutch mechanism. The arm on a cable mechanism will mean the amount of movement is 'ramped' ... does that make sense?

I haven't had much of an issue with feel or it been snatchy on mine. It doesn't offer the same (not quite as lumpy if that makes sense?) feel as a cable but you deffo know when its biting and when its not.

This is the Greek rubbish I was referring to:

'o udraulikos sumplekths einai akoma pio moufa nomizw! exeis odhghsei kana ducatti na deis poso xalia einai?'

Do you remember writing that?

I asked cos I saw a GSXR 1000 at Craven Arms today, and whilst looking at all the bling spotted the clutch reservoir. I wasn't sure whether it was standard fit but it certainly looked like it. And Karl's bike (Hupermotard) has one, I can't honestly see any advantage but Blue yes what you say makes perfect sense.

i prefere cable TBH you get more feel from a cable clutch but i can see why the bigger bikes like my old sv1000 use hydraulic.

Originally Posted by Ed

This is the Greek rubbish I was referring to:

'o udraulikos sumplekths einai akoma pio moufa nomizw! exeis odhghsei kana ducatti na deis poso xalia einai?'

Do you remember writing that?

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

You're right to be confused, it was 600+ who posted that - sorry.

so we all agree that what I wrote in Greek is true

Originally Posted by 600+

so we all agree that what I wrote in Greek is true

I dont know what you wrote so until you say in English (cant be arsed to translate) then I cant say...

[the_lone_wolf]

i've got a hydraulic clutch line on the 560, level of feel is fine for me, nowhere near as heavy as the SV, can flow with slow moving traffic without suffering hand fatigue - launching is a bit interesting because of the slipper clutch but the lever itself is really nice, certainly a bonus not having to adjust the cable to get it feeling right every now and again

but then it's top shelf magura kit as opposed to the presumably suzuki own brand cable system on the SV/DRZ

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

nowhere near as heavy as the SV, can flow with slow moving traffic without suffering hand fatigue - launching is a bit interesting because of the slipper clutch but the lever itself is really nice, certainly a bonus not having to adjust the cable to get it feeling right every now and again

You need to get a real mans bike the SV feels heavy? Jeez, it feels like pulling on nothing compaired to the falco! Good job I got Popeye

How does the slipper clutch effect setting off? Mine causes no issues that I can see or feel...

[yorkie_chris]

Why should the 560's slipper clutch affect launch? Aren't they only supposed to slip on the overrun?