So whose fault is it (lane splitting)

[Biker Biggles]

"Lane splitting"isnt illegal here in UK but there is a responsibility on all concerned not to drive without due care and attention.Therefore the bike needs to be doing a speed such that he can pull up in the distance he can see to be clear and the car driver needs to look before he makes a manoevre like changing lanes.Neither happened in this case.

my dad used to say ''if you see a space on the road your probably not the only one to spot it.'' good advice that.

Originally Posted by Baph

Yup, I do that pretty much every time I'm on the bike. However, the video is in LA, and in LA, as the OP states, "lane splitting" aka filtering is illegal. If you crash or not, it's illegal.

Actually, "lane splitting" is legal in California. It varies from state to state.

Otherwise, I agree the biker is at fault here, unless the video alters the perception, it'd seem he was moving too fast to react to the car's change of lanes.

Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle

Actually, "lane splitting" is legal in California. It varies from state to state.

Cool, I stand corrected then. But I still maintain that the biker is at fault, and the car driver has the right to be p****d. Maybe not to the extent of using the states weapons laws, but still.

good discussion this, lets have a few more vids and lets select a judge and jury. the S.V. courts are in session.

Originally Posted by Baph

The car driver will probably not have any experience of bikes, and rarely sees a bike filtering. Why would they bother to look for bikes?

aye fair point. Still lack of observation on both parts though. Bike obviously more at fault if breaking the law in the first place.

I think the law for filtering in the U.K is no more than 10 or 15 mph than the other traffics speed.

Think he was just going a little too fast, and presuming the everyone sees him.

Which we all know, is not always the case..

If we can see the car indicating and moving across then the rider probably should have. If splitting is illegal in that area then to be honest as a cager you wouldn't be looking for a bike to appear there. Plus he was filtering a bit quick, which is evident with the results!

One thing to note in addition to the filtering being legal - as stated in the video info, the car tried to cross the double-yellow lines (which is an illegal maneuver).

Having said that, the guy's on a helmet cam and his head never even moves towards the car, even as it's just about to hit him. How the heck did he miss it?

[yorkie_chris]

This is in California where motorcycle spitting is legal.

Looks like he was going pretty steady. Car driver should have looked in his f###ing mirrors and deserved a couple of booted in panels or something but suppose lost NCD will suffice. Biker should have seen indicator and the gap and used that RH lane to give himself a bit more braking time. Hindsight 20-20...