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Old 08-12-08, 02:09 PM   #11
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grinch - I'm not sure if this may help or not.

I started running for my bad back, but I have found that I have (to my amazement) more energy and a better outlook on moast things in life and it is all due to the running and having something outside of my normal life to focus on.

I don't always enjoy the actual running but find that the solitude I get is good for working things out and the ipod on keeps me going.

I also find that as I did it more I was able to set myself targets to bit and the sense of achievement I got gave me a little high.

The tricky things is getting out the door.
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Old 08-12-08, 02:09 PM   #12
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Awww Grinch, you do seem rather down. How long have you been feeling like this? Are there certain times of the day where you feel better/worse? Of if this has been happening over the course of a year, do you feel better/worse at certain periods?

How long ago did you come off the tablets? Did your memory and motivation drop once you stopped the tablets? You mentioned tiredness, is that a separate thing entirely or are you unmotivated because you’re tired?

The memory thing is a little worrying…how long has that been deteriorating for?

I agree with what Baph said, I really would go and see your GP, mention all your problems and say that you do not want anti-depressants. They don’t get to the root cause of problems; they only mask it which isn’t the best way forward. I’m a firm believer in psychological therapy – sitting down with someone and properly working through your feelings and issues can help immensely. Particularly discussing things with someone who is detached and bears no personal relationship to you whatsoever.

It’s a shame there is still a stigma attached to seeking psychological help i.e. “oh noes im crazy” because it doesn’t signify that at all.

Sorry for all the questions, im just trying to get a clearer picture of what’s been happening to you and how its affecting you so that us .orgers can help more (and possibly you can sort of help yourself by seeing what you’ve written and getting your thoughts in order?)

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Old 08-12-08, 02:13 PM   #13
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I started running for my bad back, but I have found that I have (to my amazement) more energy and a better outlook on moast things in life and it is all due to the running and having something outside of my normal life to focus on.

I don't always enjoy the actual running but find that the solitude I get is good for working things out and the ipod on keeps me going.

I also find that as I did it more I was able to set myself targets to bit and the sense of achievement I got gave me a little high.

The tricky things is getting out the door.
I found the same with cycling. Its something the Dr said to me years ago. Exercise can really help, but as you say its really hard getting out of the door sometimes.

I've also found being physically fitter helps with avoiding getting colds. I used to get them all the time. I havent had one so far this winter, I've had a few sniffles but nothing thats developed into a cold so far.
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Old 08-12-08, 02:16 PM   #14
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As for the gym, I can never get motivated for that as I find it really boring and full of posers - give cycling or running a bash.
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Old 08-12-08, 02:24 PM   #15
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do not go for st johns wart, its got side affects of its own thats not good either

i feel the same. i think of something to do and when it comes to it i cant be arsed. ive heard about seasonal disorder because a friend of mine said i suffer from it but i know little about it, in the end i couldnt be arsed to find out....see?

i think the fact ive changed my job doesnt help. its as if my night and day has shifted. for twenty years i was up at 5am for work so in bed by halftenish. now im up at 1am and in bed for 6pm and not much time at home and on the weekends im catchin up with my sleep so no life for me at the mo

doctor wanted to give me tablets but i refused as i drive/ride over 1000miles a week

i know exactly what your on about
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Old 08-12-08, 02:32 PM   #16
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I can't offer you anything other than a manly hug to try and cheer you up.
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Old 08-12-08, 02:37 PM   #17
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I can't offer you anything other than a manly hug to try and cheer you up.
I think this wins as quote of the day...

I've got plenty to think about now... and I'll try to anwser the question later...
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Old 08-12-08, 02:55 PM   #18
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sorry to hear mr grinch, im surprised your not getting more energy now ur excersising more (as long as your doing lots of cardio and not just weights).

I assume you dont smoke weed, but if you do, cut that out as your symptoms sound very much to me like someone who does, or did in earlier years for a long period of time.

this time of year the weather wont be helping, you get natural goodness from the sun (vitimin D i believe) so try and get some of these supplements with Vit D.

also something with ginseng, ive found it great for stamina and energy levels.there are male wellbeing tablets you can get over the counter that i use myself and find them very good.

i can only give you my own personal experience here, but...i have depression/bipolar/manic depression and went onto medication a few years back, lots of different things i tried ending in azipan as well as valium (called something else here cant remember what) and settled on olanzipine (what they give to schyzophrenics) if it gets to a point were tablets could help, maybe try them for a little while, short term, i personally never had any addiction and found it helped, but as i say, i can only go by my own experience pal.

hope things look better soon

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Old 08-12-08, 03:02 PM   #19
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Hey Grinch sorry to hear that your feeling down, the other guys have covered the medical side, which I don't know much about, however one thing hasn't been mentioned......the postive side.

You have a good job, a great family and some good friends, you have a lot going for you. I know when you feel down, then it so hard to think about this side of thing, but its all there, people can help. Talking things out really does help.

As for the work side of things, would not be possibale to work from home for one day a week? Could be worth asking if you haven't.

As for memory mine isn't great at the best of times, so write everything down, walk around with a small diary and mark everything in it. Make list of things to do, cross em off when your done. I do that it does help.

If you know you have problems with some things, they you need to work around it to make things happen, okay so you have to work hardrer than other people to get the same result, but for some of us that just way it is.

I would look alternative things to medication as well, not sure what that would be, but execrise does help.

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Old 08-12-08, 03:12 PM   #20
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No manly hug here, but try this:

http://www.kovideo.net/music/video/A...-Ass/4685.html
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