Vigilante's..eye for an eye and the like...

[Mr Speirs]

Originally Posted by keithd

yep, and you are absolutely 100% right in your thoughts....

of course the children abused have to take their traumas with them for the rest of their lives, effectively ending their childhood and in a (dramatic) sense ending their lives as they knew them...

Ahh okay. So what you are saying is that someone who commits crimes such premeditated murder, sex offenders etc should be sentenced to death as they have ended someone elses life?

to an extent I would agree that these people don't deserve to live but they should be sentenced to death by the authorities on beaten/tortured to death by a mob.

Originally Posted by Mr Speirs

to an extent I would agree that these people don't deserve to live but they should be sentenced to death by the authorities on beaten/tortured to death by a mob.

But just playing devils advocate for a second, where would you stand if the authorities considered it an "appropriate punishment" (sorry, still makes me laugh) for serious crime offenders to be beaten/tortured by a mob?

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by DanAbnormal

Depends. If he had sexually assaulted my child, even if it was years ago, I would probably still want to kill him. It's easy to take the moral high ground when emotions are not involved.

And that is why we have a detached judicial system.I would quite happily kill someone I found burgling my house,let alone sexually abusing my relatives,but thankfully Im not allowed to take my own revenge.The alternative is to revert to primative blood feuds and complete chaos which would be far worse than what we have now.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Just means he hasn't be caught since being put on the list...

You don't think that someone could be rehabilitated?

We don't know the reason for him being on the register so we don't know the full circumstances.

There was a case in the news of a 15 boy being put on the offenders register because he had pictures of a 15 year old girl on his PC. I think it was his girlfriend.

Also, a minor in the US had the US equivalent doled out for posting pictures of a minor on the internet - in this case herself.


My views are there is no need for a civilised society to resort to mob justice. I think, at least I hope, that a person can be rehabilitated for their crimes and lead a normal life. That goes for nonces, too. But a huge part of me thinks that I wouldn't want one living near my family etc.

As for the vigilantees, it wouldn't surprise me if they were influenced by watching Eastenders last night.

Originally Posted by Mr Speirs

This is why we have courts, jurys and prisons so that the person is found guilty and sentenced appropiately.

Except that in this age the courts do not work properly, sentences are far too light & too many decisions have been taken away from the person handing out the sentence, even if they are put inside they live the life of reily, three square meals a day, roof over their head, colour TV, internet access etc etc, we pay a fortune for that, they get it all for free, whilst i don't initially agree with what possibly happened, i could maybe understand a parent loosing it if he was sure that person had molested their child.

Originally Posted by Baph

But just playing devils advocate for a second, where would you stand if the authorities considered it an "appropriate punishment" (sorry, still makes me laugh) for serious crime offenders to be beaten/tortured by a mob?

I'm sure that if I thought that was appropriate punishment then I would emigrate to a middle eastern country where that type of justice takes place!

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Just means he hasn't be caught since being put on the list...

+1

[Mr Speirs]

[quote=Baph;1716791]I'm sorry, but that's the funniest thing I've heard this week (comedy thread included!). Appropriate sentencing? Can I come live in your world please?
[quote]

Actually thinking about it its a load of ******** really but what I was trying to emphasise that I didn't agree with Vigilante Justice. Unless its Batman then that's okay

Some people have got onto the sex offenders register for very minor things.
I don't know what this guy did, but someone was obviously very angry with him.

Would it make a difference if this crime was committed by someone who...

a) Had just heard rumours about him and decided to take the law into their own hands.

b) One of his victims (assuming that he did have some)

c) A relative of one of his victims.

[Biker Biggles]

Was this bloke actually a child molester?I dont think we know that yet.I heard one news report this morning that said he had been on the sex offenders register but had been taken off it.Seems we know very little about it,and I suspect those who killed him knew very little too.
Hopefully he wont turn out to have been a former paediatrician.