Let me get this right ... (offroad/greenlane)

Originally Posted by Bellerophon

Horses actually cause MORE damage to tracks and green-lanes than bikes. Last years Annual LDT ( The Wyegate Long Distance Trial) had over 120 competitors. There was more damage done to the lanes by 2 horseriders the day after the trial than there was on the day of the actual event. Go figure!!?

Never mind the damage lorries and buses do to roads!
it's just a shame they have a blanket ban. If noise was an issue, make stricter noise regulations. If it's speed, apply limits. If it's damage; conduct a decent study to find out what causes it.

Just busybodies at work, as per usual.

(just noticed your location too )

Originally Posted by the white rabbit

But whatever, the horses have the historical precedent so its a hard one to get over.

I need to find a loophole, whereas I can register my bike as a horse.

This is going to need some thought

I just noticed your location, I am unable to help you in France

Bellerophon, do you still have your offroader? I understand there are some nice but tricky trails Redbrook/Monmouth way but haven't tried them as yet.

Originally Posted by the white rabbit

I just noticed your location, I am unable to help you in France

I'll be back in England by February...







... miss the weather

It's staggering that the cretins (both those who campaigned for this and those who allowed it to go through) don't see the correlation between this and the increase in this:
http://www.south-wales.police.uk/fe_...sp?newsid=2918
sort of thing.

If you're going to get busted for riding on greenlanes, why bother sticking to them? You may as well ride wherever the hell you like.

That would happen I am certain even if you could pretty much ride where you like. The chances are many of those bikes being ridden there are not even road legal.

Originally Posted by the white rabbit

That would happen I am certain even if you could pretty much ride where you like. The chances are many of those bikes being ridden there are not even road legal.

I agree that you'll always get kids on scramblers riding across commons/parklands, but I think the reduction in access to legitimate trails/greenlanes has certainly made otherwise law abiding offroaders think "***k-it" and ride in places where they wouldn't have previously.

Why go to the hassle of making your bike road legal/getting a van to transport it to the nearest trails if you're going to be prosecuted for riding there anyway? Far more tempting to just ride it over any offroad area near you if there's comparatively little chance of being caught. I know some lads who have adopted this attitude who would previously have taken bikes to trails in a van and have even chanced riding non-road legal bikes the 2-3 miles to nearby fields.

[tinpants]

Originally Posted by the white rabbit

I just noticed your location, I am unable to help you in France

Bellerophon, do you still have your offroader? I understand there are some nice but tricky trails Redbrook/Monmouth way but haven't tried them as yet.

Certainly have mate!! I've got an XR250r. Nice and tractable and very manageable on the wet stuff. As for the lanes around Redbrook, well, they're right on my doorstep. On the English side they are pretty tame but once you get over the river it get a bit, um, interesting in places!!! If you fancy coming up this way then let me know and I'll see if I can join you for a blat. Have a gander at my pic album in my profile for pics of my bike.

The welsh side sounds like a job for the Beta and not the X-C then.

Will give you a shout when it warms up a bit, I'm compleetly fair weather

[tinpants]

What Beta have you got? Rev3 or Alp?

Mate, seriously, if I can get up most trails on my XR, I doubt if anyone else will have any difficulty at all !!!