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View Poll Results: What would you do?
Ignore the problem. 1 5.26%
Discuss with the team. 9 47.37%
Inform management of the basics. 6 31.58%
Spill guts to management. 2 10.53%
Keithd. 1 5.26%
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Old 25-04-09, 09:33 PM   #11
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talk to the team, then if they think its a good idea, talk to the management IMO
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Old 25-04-09, 10:27 PM   #12
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But surely the "look out for yourself & only yourself" attitude is counter productive to working within a team? Granted put yourself first & foremost, but there are others to consider if team working is going to be effective.

Anyway, the more I've thought about it, the more I'm thinking of doing a "voice of the team" approach. By that I mean ask those I'm directly responsible for about their general thoughts on the work we do, the office, health & safety aspects etc etc, all anonymously. Collate the results, then approach my managers if it's even necessary.
If you're responsible for part of the team then getting them to work effectively IS looking out for yourself. They won't be rsed if they're not happy in the place.

Bold bit... good plan.
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Old 25-04-09, 10:48 PM   #13
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If you can't change the situation then ignore it or you will find yourself on the wrong team, ok you don't care about teams but they can make life difficult for you.
It's not what you know it's who you know, always has been always will be.
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Old 25-04-09, 11:11 PM   #14
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If you can't change the situation then ignore it or you will find yourself on the wrong team, ok you don't care about teams but they can make life difficult for you.
It's not what you know it's who you know, always has been always will be.
Someone above me recently asked what my reaction would be if they were to transfer me to a particular team.

My response was simple; "When would you like my written notice?"
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Old 26-04-09, 10:11 AM   #15
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speak to the team - get all their views. Then you know you've got some sort of support. If your not in the "in crowd" then doing anything on your own will probably just make your working environment worse.

I work in the public sector (local government) and i can tell you its no different what so ever here. Its full of wasters and "in crowds" where your safe as long as your in and if you have a voice and brain of your own then your picked on and bullied. They then dig around for any dirt they can find, set you up and get you the sack. Rant over lol
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Old 26-04-09, 10:22 AM   #16
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I work in the public sector (local government) and i can tell you its no different what so ever here. Its full of wasters and "in crowds" where your safe as long as your in and if you have a voice and brain of your own then your picked on and bullied. They then dig around for any dirt they can find, set you up and get you the sack. Rant over lol
I wouldn't go that far!!

If things were like that where I'm working, I'd be talking to a union rep about legal courses of action! Especially if I considered that any of the team were being picked on or bullied. The main thing that happens is *itching behind peoples backs.

I'm sure they say stuff about me when I'm not there too, but I'm of the opinion that if they haven't got the balls to say it to my face, they can't be that confident about their opinion. Others on the team aren't so thick skinned.
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Old 26-04-09, 10:39 AM   #17
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For my sins i am a union rep, not been doing it long, but unfortunately its not always the case that justice is served. You realise that very quickly in local government. Doesn't stop you fighting management though

Anyway in your case then i'd still say speak to your team. Numbers do count. Like you say not everyone in your team is so thick skinned so it might well be that they are feeling bullied or harrased. In which case doing things as a team will give you a lot more strength.
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