Vote or die

[ophic]

Originally Posted by Supervox

Personally ? I think we should leave the EU as I see no advantage for the UK in being part of a United States of Europe - especially one that leaves us the 'poor relation' that everyone dislikes.

This could be why they haven't asked the public. There's a lot of not-so-obvious financial and market factors to be considered - basically we wouldn't survive out of europe, and the opinion of the common man just isn't informed enough to make a sensible decision (one of the many drawbacks of democracy). This is best left to the "experts" - fingers crossed we can trust them.

[Supervox]

Originally Posted by ophic

This could be why they haven't asked the public. (1) There's a lot of not-so-obvious financial and market factors to be considered - (2) basically we wouldn't survive out of europe, and (3) the opinion of the common man just isn't informed enough to make a sensible decision (one of the many drawbacks of democracy). This is best left to the "experts" - fingers crossed we can trust them.

(1) Then perhaps they should be made obvious by means of information & explanation ?

(2) YOUR opinion - not neccessarily a fact !!

(3) As per (1)

(1) & (3) This of course should be done using no words with more than 2 syllables - just so us common people can understand what we are being told.

[ophic]

Originally Posted by Supervox

(1) & (3) This of course should be done using no words with more than 2 syllables - just so us common people can understand what we are being told.

Sorry that wasn't mean to be offensive but it was a little blunt. I include myself within the "common man" definition; i just happen to realise that some subjects can't be explained to everyone. Economics is a complicated area and unless one has been studying it for many years (which i haven't) and then gained an awful lot of experience, any opinion we might have is very likely to be wrong. Even then there are many theories out there, and disagreements amongst the experts, so its a minefield.

[G]

I'll be voting this year. tomorrow morning infact.

It ashame my kerry is away at the moment, she wont be able too as she didnt sort out the postal vote soon enough.

[jamesterror]

What the ball ache is about the if you don't vote, you can't talk about it. I would like to vote but I'm not 18 till end of June, I do keep my eye on politics + am quite interested in the business side of the news except the ridiculous overhaul of mediaisation of a recession, is my thoughts then also canceled out?

My parents say they'd rather not have any of the parties there at the minute tbh, although if I could vote, I would vote conservative.

[ophic]

Originally Posted by jamesterror

What the ball ache is about the if you don't vote, you can't talk about it.

In your case, its more that you can't vote - nowt you can do about it, so no need to worry.

Originally Posted by ophic

This is best left to the "experts" - fingers crossed we can trust them.

When do they arrive though?

[ophic]

Originally Posted by hob

When do they arrive though?

As soon as we get rid of all the politicians

just remember though that if you spoil your paper you are still leading the way for that person with a small majority to get in on apathy - only use it as a last resort.
otherwise i still haven't a clue who i'm voting for - recieved nothing about whos standing so i'll need to brave the hoards standing outside tomorrow

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

If you really can't find a politician you'd trust further than you could throw then spoil your balot paper. Spoilt papers get counted - a large percentage of spoilt papers says "I don't trust any of you, you have no mandate". Wheras not turning up says "

If you word that a little better so I can understand please???? People who don't vote may not ahve a clue what your on about but would like to know more, as im one of these people....

Spoilt to me sounds like a over-privilaged little brat child....

I take it its an extra option which basically says "I don't trust any of you, you have no mandate"

but what does that mean for me as a voter over anything else?????? Whats a spoilt vote going to do???