Internet Tax

[embee]

Warning - rant, venting of spleen, issuance of bile...........read on.

This proposed landline tax is just the most spiteful pea-brained idiotic idea yet from this god-awful excuse for a government. What about the little old dear who has a phone and no intention of ever having a PC, why the **** should she be expected to subsidise someone's inept business model of a broadband service?

And what's the bet it'll be plus VAT?

After the setting-up costs and admin charges they'll end up with a couple of quid a year? Just what the **** do they think that'll achieve? Jobs for some halfwit government ministry, that's all.

If they want some more cash out of Joe Public just be honest about it and do it on income tax FFS, negligible admin oncost, the system is all there, just tweak the personal allowance and job's done. What a bunch of ****s, just vote them out. Anyone for Iran?

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by embee

Anyone for Iran?

I dunno, I heard that it was ruled by some facist gobsh1te who nobody likes...




wait...

[punyXpress]

Originally Posted by embee

Warning - rant, venting of spleen, issuance of bile...........read on.

Anyone for Iran?

Brown, G ?

I already pay tax on my phone line! market forces should drive the introduction of super-fast, not government taxation.

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by simesb

I already pay tax on my phone line! market forces should drive the introduction of super-fast, not government taxation.

That is the problem, it is not cost effective for the operators (BT, or virgin) to deliver infrastructure beyond the reach of their technologies. I live about 4 miles from my ADSL enabled exchange. BT have twice stated that they are unable to provide me with a service due to the line losses. fortunately I have cable outside my door.

A new garden grab development was built 100 yards from my house. 8 five bedroom houses. When the first new proud owners moved in they discovered BT will not provide them with ADSL nor virgin who ran past the original house where the development now stands. They are not happy.

They have put up big signs on the entrance to the development to state it is an internet Notspot, not surprisingly the developer is all shirty, nobody wants to buy the remaining houses etc.

Market forces may well drive demand for faster broadband. But the operators would quite easily baulk at providing service to isolated notspots where they would never see a return on investment under single charging policies.

Fibre to the home, it is the way forward. Cost a fortune but at least it would cure the digital divide in terms of an acceptable national standard for speed and access to broadband service for all

[Gazza77]

Originally Posted by timwilky

That is the problem, it is not cost effective for the operators (BT, or virgin) to deliver infrastructure beyond the reach of their technologies. I live about 4 miles from my ADSL enabled exchange. BT have twice stated that they are unable to provide me with a service due to the line losses. fortunately I have cable outside my door.

A new garden grab development was built 100 yards from my house. 8 five bedroom houses. When the first new proud owners moved in they discovered BT will not provide them with ADSL nor virgin who ran past the original house where the development now stands. They are not happy.

They have put up big signs on the entrance to the development to state it is an internet Notspot, not surprisingly the developer is all shirty, nobody wants to buy the remaining houses etc.

Market forces may well drive demand for faster broadband. But the operators would quite easily baulk at providing service to isolated notspots where they would never see a return on investment under single charging policies.

Sounds like me, bar I'm not in a new house. No cable access, and BT nor anyone else can provide me with a home broadband service. Can't even get a dongle, as none of the mobile providers can guarantee a suitable signal strength at my house.

Not only that, no digitial tv signal either, and the analogue signal cannot pick up channel 5, not channel 4 very well and that is with a brand new, high gain aerial.

Anyone would think I live in the most far flung place in the world. Yet I'm only 25 miles from Leeds and 27 from Manchester.

[ophic]

Originally Posted by Gazza77

Yet I'm only 25 miles from Leeds and 27 from Manchester.

well that explains it. Middle of nowhere

Originally Posted by Gazza77

Sounds like me, bar I'm not in a new house. No cable access, and BT nor anyone else can provide me with a home broadband service. Can't even get a dongle, as none of the mobile providers can guarantee a suitable signal strength at my house.

Not only that, no digitial tv signal either, and the analogue signal cannot pick up channel 5, not channel 4 very well and that is with a brand new, high gain aerial.

Anyone would think I live in the most far flung place in the world. Yet I'm only 25 miles from Leeds and 27 from Manchester.

get SKY

[Gazza77]

Originally Posted by amarko5

get SKY

I have. Doesn't solve the broadband problem though, and whilst I accept that I get extra benefits for my subscription it doesn't alter the fact that I am paying for a service by means of my license fee that I don't actually have access to.

[ophic]

Internet tax is proposed at £6 per year. If it is used properly, as proposed, to bring the internet to rural areas, i don't mind paying it at all. If it's squandered and put into ill thought out schemes that don't work and go nowhere, then of course its a problem.

There's something about the british government and computer technology that doesn't gel. Just look at the NHS