Bikes. What to do next?

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Lissa

We have had the pleasure to ride with Binky and he really does get the most out of his Curvy Fizz. Wore his front as quickly as the rear. He's been in intermediates on it as well and apart from the straights was not embarrassed at all.

New bike time then IMHO

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Binky you can maybe try my cbr (carefully ) next time we are out to get a feel of IL4 power delivery.

I didnt like it at first took me a month or two to get used to it after the SV.

Its a hard decision I reckon. I was in the same situation.

Ended up buying a cheaper 600SS that I didnt mind binning on the track. Ultimately I did not see the point in spending a small fortune on the SV suspension.

I vote 2/3 year old 600/750.........except I wont be able to keep up lol

Keep the sv and buy a sportsbike-thats what ive done

GSX-R 750. End of discussion. Can a moderator please now lock this thread?

Whichever IL4 you choose as soon as it gets going properly you will grin like a lunatic, then rapidly change gear. Flat out in 2nd is often ban territory though, and bimbling about seems pointless on them, as said they are cutting edge and designed for race tracks so they just want to go fast!!

I'm well known on this forum for disliking IL4 600's, had many long discussions on it and I make no bones about it.

Originally Posted by Jackie_Black

Sports bikes are amazing mind. But only for about 5% of your riding (unless you're rossi)

Which is how I feel, but then thats 5% of my riding. As Lissa said, Binky is pretty much head down and pinned throttle on the SV constantly (well on rideouts anyway). I followed Binky for a lot of the peak district rideout and his riding style is similar to Carelesschucca who went from an SV to a GSXR600 and he absolutely loves it, but I think it's because he gives it 100% commitment all the time. If you want to pootle around country lanes, overtake without changing gear, and generally be lazy it's not the bike for you.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

IL4 is still a bike and you will get on with it, you dont need to worry about no midrange or no engine braking blah blah blah. its rubbish theres plenty of midrange and you wont miss the engine braking because the brakes on something like a GSXR are far superior to the SV's anyway.

I went from a Curvey SV to a GSXR-750 put it this way I wouldnt ever go back now.

Is that because you have a 750 Fizz? I haven't ridden one but everyone says they are significantly better midrange than the 600. IMO there is a relative lack of midrange on a GSXR600, it's not rubbish, and it's not just my experience of it saying that, loads of people say the same, magazines say the same, other forums say the same, it's just repeated far too often to have no basis in truth.

+1 to engine braking and superiority. Engine braking is just a change of habits. Unless you go backwards like a GS500, or stay with something budget like a ER6, I think you will never go back to the SV after trying something better. It's a great wee bike, but it's 4 grand for a reason. Riding something quality just feels so much better. If my financial situation was better my SV would have been changed or supplemented by a second bike on it's third birthday when the finance payments were up.

There's plenty of engine braking on the 750, plus a slipper clutch, it's all irrelevant when the rear wheel is hanging in the air though Binky

Binky is pretty much head down and pinned throttle on the SV constantly (well on rideouts anyway).

Then you will love it but be completely knackered, and i hope you're not too tall! I can almost rest my wrists on my knees on mine!

If (when)i get another it'll be at least a 750 for when i want to do lazy overtakes etc. Or ideally an R1 XL for people over 6ft

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Is that because you have a 750 Fizz? I haven't ridden one but everyone says they are significantly better midrange than the 600. IMO there is a relative lack of midrange on a GSXR600, it's not rubbish, and it's not just my experience of it saying that, loads of people say the same, magazines say the same, other forums say the same, it's just repeated far too often to have no basis in truth.

I do, but I have also ridden a 600 Bandit a 650 Bandit a K6 GSXR 600...

Theres an awful lot of guff written on forums by riders who have no experience of the bike they are talking about. Theres also an awful lot of guff written in magazines by journalists who like to over hype the bike they are talking about.

The K6 600 I rode pulled from 4000rpm, in every gear, it pulled very well from 6000rpm in every gear. My 750 will go right down to 30mph in 6th gear and the pull all the way to the rev limiter without me having to change gear at all. I could never do that on my SV, well not without a lot of chugging complaing and chain slap.

I tihnk on the older bikes then yes they are lacking a little maybe mid range wise, but on the more modern stuff like the K6 600 I rode, its not true in my experience to say that an IL4 has no mid range power.

You have to remember that 6000rpm on a bike that revs to 13,000rpm its pretty much half way through its RPM range and could possibly be described as its "mid point"

1.Bin the sv.

2.Try an IL4.

3.Never look back