Green laners get together

Originally Posted by hovis

if i have a bike...... im in.

although i doubt i will have, and still dunno what to get, im leaning more towards the off road sceane (id love a CR125/250 small light and plenty of power, but too much hassle of the plod and a 100 mile motorway ride would destroy it, (not that i would ever ride a crosser on the roads)

i have been out of the off road sceane for too long, and have not realy got a clue whats about,

i would like electric start, but i also want somthing light.

i want somthing that is more of an off road bike, but can cope with the road

probably about £2000......... or do i get a streetfightered curvy?

quite fancy white rabbits beta, i know beta trials bike are top of the game, and have had about 6-7, just dunno much about the enduros,

This is what I have:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAS-GAS-450-FS...d=p3286.c0.m14

Road/trail riding/electric start

Haven't had any hassles (well, few small niggles, but nothing serious) with mine and it is a bit crapper than that one!

cant get ebay in work, but see its a gasser,

again they make tidy trials bikes (the ones with no seat) and i have had a few, like beta
but just never heard much about the enduros, and like beta they dont seem very popular, is there a reason for this?

Originally Posted by hovis

cant get ebay in work, but see its a gasser,

again they make tidy trials bikes (the ones with no seat) and i have had a few, like beta
but just never heard much about the enduros, and like beta they dont seem very popular, is there a reason for this?

Just smaller company I guess. Like the Beta is KTM, the Gas Gas lump is a DRZ-400. The spec is pretty good though because they don't manufacture a lot of their own bits- Ohlins rear, WP forks, Arrow exhaust, AP brakes, Renthal bars etc. Not exactly the top drawer stuff but not bad for OE!

I haven't had any hassle getting parts though- my Triumph dealer is also a Gas Gas dealer!

yeah, my local shop is a trials shop so parts wont be a problem.

Ok, Green laning is basically taking a road legal dirt bike or 4x4 across areas of land that are still classed as byways.
You will need a road legal bike or 4x4 as mot, insurance and tax all apply on byways.
As for the bike, pretty anything goes as long as its got plenty of ground clearance and you dont mind dragging it out of the mud at some stage.
I have used anything from a dt125r (ages ago) to my 520 exc (yesterday).
With the 4x4 part, I'll have to leave that to stretchie and co to explain as dragging something that big through the mud has never been my game!

Can I act as ballast in the 4x4?

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by speedplay

Ok, Green laning is basically taking a road legal dirt bike or 4x4 across areas of land that are still classed as byways.
You will need a road legal bike or 4x4 as mot, insurance and tax all apply on byways.

It is NOT an area. A green lane is a road and as such has a defined route that you should keep to. You can drive on Byeways Open To All Traffic (AKA B.O.A.T.) and unclassified county roads (UCRs) but restricted byeways, bridleways and footpaths are out of bounds.

I could be up for this, bike or car, will have to see when it is.

Originally Posted by hovis

good question

i dont realy know either, i would hope its more than just plodding around lanes mountin roads and stony tracks, and more mud, bankings and jumps.

No how you describe it is basically green laning. Bankings and jumps? Unlikely on a road...

Would this be muddy enough?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yx7CFmGpuo

That shows a UCR, with bike tracks avoiding the hole, but in fact they are off the RoW and technically trespassing / breaking the law.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

The beast is getting shod with proper knobblies in the next fortnight or so for some winter mud action

Name the time and place (But not the 11th Oct as I'm in Thetford)...

Thetford is a blast!
Nice open trails and has always been dry when I have been there, even in the winter.
Watch out for open patches of sand though

[gruntygiggles]

Speedplay, Stretchie has, as usual understated his knowledge. He's got OS maps marked out and on his phone with all the mud traps, water holes, steep hills etc, so he'll certainly be able to halp you make it a good day for all. Salisbury Plains covers an area of 300 square miles...yep, that's how big it is! It is littered with byways and what the land wardens call Permissible Roads. There is no way of knowing which of the non-byway tracks are permissible unless you have been told by the Wardens. Stretch and I know a few, but the safest way to play is just to stick to the byways.

This isn't like being on a mountain byway. You're in a military base and they are very strict and well set up to cath people breaking the law. Stretch and I have been chatting to a warden and listening in to the conversation between him and a helicopter pilot tracking down a group of non road legal dirt bikes. You don't get a warning on Salisbury, you're likely to be saying goodbye to your bike/4x4 if you're caught!

What Stretch said about groups is true also. Small groups missing a byway, getting confused can just about get away with it if it's genuine, but a large group or a few bikes off the byway, playing in mud etc can get in trouble.

That said, stick to the laws and byways and you can have SO MUCH fun. There's plenty of mud and water, loads of tracks that Stretch and I know really well and a couple of steep inclines/declines! I'd actually really like to see a bike get up one of the stony hills!

Oh, and if you're on a bike and need towing, you'll have people to call in 4x4's...lol. Last time we came across bikes, they let us go through a water trap and decided not to bother seeing it come over our bonnet...lol

Fizz and I might be up for this, i spend alot of time driving around SPTA but never normally for fun so why not. I'll bring my up to date issue maps with me as well lots more detail than an OS.